<p>Major</a> DNC Donor to Party Treasurer: Obama is a Bad Investment : NO QUARTER</p>
<p>How can anyone vote for Obama after that?</p>
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Il let you read on what neoconservative really is, I cant do it again. Because you aren't entirely right on what you think it is.</p>
<p>You call neoconservative a stupid school of thought, well it is much more related to to social liberalism than any other ideology. Like I said the pillars of neoconservative are the same in liberalism and neoconservative. I agree both social liberalism and neoconservative are both incredibly stupid. They are both incredibly ineffective and well almost always fail.</p>
<p>Like I said and I will stand by it the most liberal senator of all time and the moderate neoconservative are not all to different.
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<p>I'm not here to debate the history of political philosophies. You sound pretty confident on your knowledge of neoconservatism, so I'll just say that you win and let's stop discussing this.</p>
<p>If the best that McCain can do is try to be an Obama doppelganger, then he loses. People want the real thing, not a decrepit, uninspiring, and septuagenarian version of it.</p>
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Hey bedhead do you have a link to that? Cuz i can't find it. If this is true than Obama does have the higher ground on this issue.
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<p>I can help you. </p>
<p>Barack</a> Obama's 2002 Speech (Lessig Blog)</p>
<p>The speech was given on October 2002. The war in Iraq started in March of 2003. </p>
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How can anyone vote for Obama after that?
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<p>That guy is most likely one of the few Hillraisers left who refuse to support Obama because Hillary was their best hope of continuing the big-moneyed oligarchy that defined Clintonism. Obama's grassroots base threatens their disproportionate amount of influence in Washington. In other words, his opinion is worthless, and his thousands of dollars can easily be replaced by many small donors.</p>
<p>Well then nbachris I was wrong. Thanks for the info. Now that I know Mr. Obama publically put himself on the spot before the war I can safely say he has the high ground on who to blame for the Iraq War. One more point for Obama I guess. Though I still have my doubts on other issues.</p>
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Though I still have my doubts on other issues.
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<p>Such as? Maybe we can talk about them.</p>