<p>here</p>
<p>is this necessary?</p>
<p>Some people need to stop thinking in terms of rankings. In fact, it's best not to think in those terms at all. It creates false impressions. You simply can't reduce the multiple facets of university life into a single number.</p>
<p>yeah its true,</p>
<p>that site isnt working anymore<br>
<a href="http://www.geocities.jp/worldtheride/WorldRankings2007.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.geocities.jp/worldtheride/WorldRankings2007.pdf</a> i think one works</p>
<p>Honestly, I think it is very necessary.</p>
<p>As we apply to universities they send us their biased material. How are we expected to make a fair decision when this is happening? I think rankings like these see past all the BS and examine the things that truly matter. I know with me I have applied to University of Toronto and McGill, and rankings like these have helped me in trying and make a decision.</p>
<p>...you're absolutely right. Rankings help you see past all the BS, like where you can have an enjoyable 4-5 (or if you're an engineer 6-10) years. Or where you'll feel most comfortable socially. </p>
<p>I don't know why more things aren't ranked/boiled down to trivial terms and given a "quantitative" assessment. </p>
<p>First on the list of things to get ranked: pizza parlors across Montreal. I don't want to know about the pizza; I want to know every parlor's amount of slice spending (how much of their endowment goes into their pizza). How many tenured pizza makers are on staff, and other things of such an objective nature.</p>
<p>I don't want to be blinded by such factors as taste, ambiance, or staff friendliness...</p>
<p>drmambo, I know we argue a lot, but you are totally right. </p>
<p>Rankings are formed by an arbitrary selection of statistics that usually have little relevance to your college and post-college experience. You decide where you want to go to college by going to the places you are considering, meeting (and, if your lucky, hanging out) with current students, sitting in on a class, and viewing (and, if your fortunate, using) school facilities, such as the common rooms, gym, and libraries. </p>
<p>And if you can't make a personal visit, then, as biased as they are, those college booklets offer you a hell of a lot more insight, then the "Times Higher Education Supplement".</p>
<p>I agree. If you, drmambo, could find a university rankings journal, article, etc that meets your criteria I would appreciate it. Personally, I doubt you'll find one. I've often used Mcleans for my information. Hasn't failed me yet.</p>
<p>I don't get the point of your post. Was it to alert me that no journal exists that can tell you where you'll have the most comfortable or fun 4-5 years?</p>
<p>From my understanding of the your post before the last, you were suggesting that there needs to be a more objective ranking system for the universities. Rankings based on data that allows the person to come to their own conclusions, rather than predigested information. </p>
<p>I am asking you to find this kind of information. If you don't it won't matter, I'm not challenging your opinions.</p>
<p>I suggested no such thing. I merely contested that such objective ranking systems like Mclean's and USNW&R are near pointless. They don't touch on other important factors, such as comfortability, or social scene. Well...they aren't pointless if the only reason you're going to a school is because it's got a "better" ranking than someone elses...</p>
<p>Haha, you sound like my guidance counsellor. True enough...</p>
<p>yeah, who cares. Plenty of McGill grads work at coffee shops. </p>
<p>It's all about what you learn, not where you learn. Unless it's Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT or Stanford.</p>