<p>I can’t remember and when teh prelim dates were but i remember there was on prelim where the BioEE was on the same day as Orgo. You can expect one of the exams to be close to at least one of other exams. But my friend did all 3 last semester and she did fine. I only took orgo and bio EE though cause im not neuro concentration =D</p>
<p>and gen chem and bio together wasn’t bad at all even though i did poorly. sophomore year will be worse with orgo and physics</p>
<p>Yeah and make sure your bio and chem courses are sequences…pretty sure most people do it that way</p>
<p>Like for example, “Bio lessons I and Bio lessons II” would be a sequence, couldn’t think of a word so I used lessons 
Two very different courses, like “Environmental Biology” and then “Neurobiology” are different. Not saying you shouldn’t take those two, but try and go for a sequence first to get that 1 year requirement out of the way, and then move on up to the upper-level courses that actually interest you and will be useful for the MCAT’s, don’t just take them because you’re trying to take as many Bio courses as possible.</p>
<p>Also, it shouldn’t be a question on whether taking them both during your “first semester”, it should be taking them during the first year. If you decide to do it going by semesters, then you might mess your schedule around a bit…and you don’t want to take your first bio during the spring semester, and then the sequence during the fall semester following it, try and take them closer to each other, separating them by semesters will most likely mess up your schedule. Also make sure you take the labs with them also, most of the time you’re required to take it with the lecture anyway so just make sure</p>
<p>A lot of people Bio and general/inorganic chem together during the first year, and during the second they can skip out on Bio and worry about organic chem and their other pre-med reqs. Others do it the other way around, and get the basic stuff like English, math, and a year of Bio out of the way freshman year, and then during soph year take general chem, and during junior go for organic chem right before taking the MCAT’s. Just plan it out and make sure you don’t waste time on the courses, because you do need pre-reqs for the chem courses, and you don’t want to be a year behind because you didn’t take a pre-req for an upper level course.</p>
<p>Anyways other people have different opinions and I don’t have TOO much info on this stuff, so there are probably corrections in my post. Others in this forum know a lot though, and a few have posted on this thread with pretty helpful advice, feel free to ask them; they know what they’re doing</p>
<p>There are a lot of websites online, when I have time I’ll find a few and post them here, they’re pretty helpful and can help you prepare a bit ahead of time so you’re ready from the start</p>
<p>Micny: Thank you for the helpful info!
So the most “successful” (for lack of a better word" setup is Chem/Bio first year (take both for both semesters?), Orgo/physics second year?
I don’t know if most people take two sciences during the same semester, but if I must, I must.
I’ll probably get Calc/English out of the way freshman year, I took multivariable last semester in HS (and hated it) and am taking Linear Algebra right now (and REALLY REALLY REALLY hate it), so Calc 1 and 2 freshman year should be much better…
English is fine, if I do well on the AP Lit exam I might be able to get rid of a bit of it.</p>
<p>It depends on what major you are. engineer pre meds usually go in a different sequence.
For bio majors thats one of the most common sequence. </p>
<p>I’m a bio major and i took Bio + chem fresh man year. Now i’m taking physics and orgo together. So basically i’ll be done with med school requirements by sophomore year. Junior year i’ll take biochem in fall and genetics in spring and also use spring to prepare for mcats. Senior year will be finish up graduation/college requirements + med school interviews if i get any.</p>
<p>man being a pre-med seems hard!!! haha… I am just got accepted and all my credits transferred. I got my writing requirement done, cal done, 1 year intro to bio and chem done, 1 semester of physics w/ cal done… How should I go on my route? haha… Now since I got my first semester of physics done, should I take it during the spring semester or in the fall semester?</p>
<p>No problem :P</p>
<p>There isn’t much of a difference with the set-up, some people do it Bio/Chem freshman, and Orgo during sophomore, and others do it the other way around. It really does depend on the workload you can handle, because these classes are on top of the other general classes you might be taking.</p>
<p>And yeah, getting the English and math out of the way shouldn’t be too hard. I’ve heard some schools are now requiring Statistics as a math class? So you could do a semester of Statistics and a semester of calculus for your 1 year of math, or just go for Calculus I and II making your 1 year of math complete. Look into a few schools though to make sure they don’t require Statistics, I don’t know if it’s true but it wouldn’t hurt to make sure beforehand</p>
<p>A lot of people take 2 sciences during a semester like I said, and others do it the other way around. Just go for what you can handle, and if you try it out at first, there’s always the “Add/Drop” week where you can drop the class without a penalty (Withdraw grade), and anything after that would result in a Withdraw. I’m not attending Cornell right now so I wouldn’t know how it works, but it’s usually around the first few weeks of classes, so if you feel you need to take only one instead of two, just drop it before the deadline. This is WAY different than the “Withdraw” deadline though, so just make sure you know that lol</p>
<p>And yea, what major would you be in? The pre-med requirements aren’t the only ones that are helpful, remember that there are other courses like Anatomy/Physiology that I’ve heard are also pretty helpful, so just time it out and plan AHEAD OF TIME, it helps a ton!</p>
<p>I’ll find those websites soon, it helps a ton if you plan ahead of time and know what you’re getting yourself into/the route you’re taking, if you do everything last minute it could be pretty hectic for some</p>
<p>Oh and taking Organic chem and Physics during soph year isn’t good or bad, I’ve heard from a ton of people, and others on here might be able to also tell you, that physics on the MCAT’s is pretty basic and thorough, so a lot of people tend to save that for the end. It depends on your background of physics though, so maybe others around here can help you with that part</p>
<p>Dragon: You have a lot of your reqs out of the way lol, I guess it would be up to you , getting the reqs out of the way early can mean more time for you to take electives and just other stuff in general, so I guess in the end it’s really up to you. A lot of your reqs are done :p</p>
<p>Another awesome post!</p>
<p>My major is going to depend: at Cornell, it would be Human Bio, Health, and Society (which, if you graduate as an HBHS major, you will fulfill premed requirements). If I go to Williams, I’ll probably be a Spanish major while going pre-med.
If I attend Cornell, I’ll probably do a concentration in Spanish in addition to the HBHS major.
So I guess getting Bio and Chem out of the way first year is the way to go, but taking two lab sciences first semester freshman year might be a little overwhelming for me… do most premeds take both first semester? Is it doable?
I’m definitely ready for some hard work, but I don’t want to overload myself before I get adjusted to the whole college scene.</p>
<p>Why not take it second semester?</p>
<p>take both in first semester, just get it out of your way. you might think that you’ll have time later on but then’ll you’ll realize that you have so many other classes to take / want to take! your never free!! </p>
<p>@dragon, you got your chem done? AP only covers half so unless you took the the placement for teh 2nd half, you got to take that. </p>
<p>physics should be easy since you took the AP and passed, just get it done in the spring.
you can try taking organic chem freshman year, i dont know if they allow freshmans? organic is going to be so fun!!! the averages are so low! LOL.</p>
<p>NOO dont scare me Anbu!!! haha… Im a transfer Anbu… This is what I finished so far.</p>
<p>Fall 08 Semester
Chem I
Cal I
CIS I
Eng writing I</p>
<p>Spring 09 semester
CHem II
Cal II
Phys I
English Writing II
Bio I</p>
<p>Summer 09
Bio II</p>
<p>Fall 09 I will be going to Cornell University as a sophomore transfer. So far Im thinkin about</p>
<p>Fall 09
Oro chem I
(whatever is next for my biology major)
Chinese Or should I take physic II?
Something else…
PE (Maybe i should take swimming :D!! )</p>
<p>Spring 010
Oro Chem II
(Whatever is next for my bio major)
Chinese Or should I take Physic II?
Something else…
PE (Not sure which one, but to finish the requirement)</p>
<p>Does this seem like a lot of work?
It seems like if i take Physic II, it will be too many science courses!!! aaahhh<br>
lol… Should I take Nutrition? Will that help me prepare for the MCAT?</p>
<p>Chandler: Osteopathic medicine is nearly identical to allopathic (M.D.) medicine. The biggest distinction between the two is that 1.) Osteopathic physicians place more emphasis on the health of the mind, body and spirit and 2.) can offer osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) as another line of treatment. OMM isn’t always practiced by osteopathic physicians for a number of reasons and it’s also not appropriate for many conditions. For example, if you get a guy in your ER with a heart attack, you’re not going to focus on realigning his joints 
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<p>Another problem for Osteopathic physicians is that, unlike the M.D., not all countries recognize the D.O. degree (although, this isn’t too much of a problem for U.S. citizens).</p>
<p>dewdrop: Thank you, that clears it up. Hmm… OMM doesn’t sound very interesting to me, in fact, it sounds JUST like bonesetting! Have you read The Bonesetter’s Daughter by Amy Tan? It describes bonesetting a little bit, and that’s exactly what OMM sounds like. Far out. Who knew that ancient medical traditions have found their way into modern-day medical care?</p>
<p>That’s dumb. And also a reason to go to an allopathic school, just so that you can <em>seem</em> to have the qualifications of a doctor. I’ve seen a lot of P.A.s and D.O.s get snubbed by ignorant patients who insist on seeing M.D.s, “real doctors”. I find it truly sad: P.A.s and D.O.s can be just as good, if not better than, some M.D.s</p>
<p>OMM isn’t solely focused on bones. I forget what the technique is called, but at one of my D.O. school interviews I learned two techniques that you can use when somebody comes in with muscle spasms.</p>
<p>I think that as the number of Osteopathic physicians increases, people will become more aware and the ignorance and arrogance will decrease.</p>
<p>The differences between MD and DO are mainly historical at this point. Most DO’s do not use OMM in practice and the holistic focus is a bunch of hogwash. Every med school, MD and DO, is teaching holistic medicine. </p>
<p>DO’s are eligible for the same residencies as MD’s. They work in the same hospitals. And the remuneration is the same for performing the same procedure (ie the salaries are the same).</p>
<p>Well I want to bump this to see if anyone can tell me if my schedule is ok… </p>
<p>I also want to know which is better as an infectious disease physician (I know i have to go to Internal medicine first and then infectious disease), MD or DO? Or it doesn’t matter?</p>
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<p>True…but I guess I was just lucky to be able to shadow and speak with D.O’s who use OMM. For a long time, many D.O.'s didn’t practice OMM because Medicare wouldn’t reimburse them for it, and insurance companies follow Medicare’s reimbursement rates. </p>
<p>Drago: D.O. physicians have the same opportunity to obtain fellowships. As for M.D. or D.O., that has to be your own choice.</p>
<p>On average who gets more patience? M.D. or D.O.? is there any statistics? I cant find any… I suck at searching :'(</p>
<p>your schedule looks fine except you listed chinese? and orgo. so i’m not sure if thats your whole schedule or your premed schedule cause chinese doesn’t fit. if its your whole, you don’t have enough credits. but anyway, orgo + physics + some others should be fine. dont forget the orgo lab! and bio lab if you didn’t take it</p>
<p>I’ve never seen that type of statistic in any of the literature I’ve read.</p>