<p>Ill keep this short and simple. What is the best way to get to JHU med school. Is it to go to a tough pre-med school like the ivies, jhu, duke, or lacs like williams and amherst and get a good gpa like 3.6 or go to a state school like ohio state, get an inflated gpa and do well on the mcats. this is holding true you do some medical ecs and score 35+ on the mcats. im considering going to osu over schools like jhu to have a better chance to have an inflated gpa. thanks for your advice.</p>
<p>there is a pre-med thread buddy</p>
<p>well, I think it's an interesting topic. My friend's dad (who went to Cornell) had a college friend who just about had a 3.5 at Cornell. He had another friend who went to one of the SUNY schools and had a 4.0. The SUNY graduate got into med school while the Cornell graduate did not. </p>
<p>I was thinking about this same topic the other day. I really hope inflated GPA's do not matter, especially since med schools should know that it is harder to earn an A at JHU than at a state school. Also, I don't know anything about the ECs, MCATs, etc of the two people I mentioned above. Perhaps those were the deciding factors.</p>
<p>In any case, isn't OSU a hard school too? My physics teacher went there and said that at the beginning of his freshmen year, his dorm was soo crowded, but it was fine by the end of the year because of the number of people that dropped out. According to Princeton Review, only 31% of freshmen graduate in four years. I don't know. Perhaps we should all go to a SUNY school, except I love the JHU campus/environment too much :)</p>
<p>BanKai, i wouldn't get as many replies as i would here. i did post it there and i have also researched. there has never been somewhat of a clear answer on this topic. there have been only examples of for or against.
run<em>n</em>hit- a girl i know from school has a brother and goes to osu. his calc teacher doesn't even know what limits are. so how do you explain that.</p>
<p>i dont believe that at all.
limits are the basis for derivatives.
derivatives are the basis for integrals
these 3 things make up most of calculus principles</p>
<p>yea. doesn't make sense at all. i'd check that story</p>
<p>yea, I'd double check that too.</p>
<p>Perhaps we're talking about two different OSU's. I was speaking about the one in Columbus. Maybe you're talking about Newark or Marion?</p>
<p>A 3.6 is unlikely to get you accepted to JHU's medical school, regardless of the undergrad school.</p>
<p>You'd probably need a bit above that (or closer to a 4.0 from a state school). You would also HAVE to have done something significant beyond make good grades. For Hopkins, that generally involves substantive research. </p>
<p>I would heartily recommend not devoting your life for the next few years to gaining an aceptance to a particular medical schoo. The chances of being among the very few people who are accepted everywhere are small--most of the people at Hopkins, Harvard, Duke, Cornell, Columbia, and the other top tier med schools were accepted to maybe one other elite school. These schools get thousands of applications from people who have 3.8's and 11's and 12's on their MCAT's, and their admissions selections can't help but be a bit arbitrary. Further, the schools that you might see as second tier are also filled with these same people.</p>
<p>A friend of mine a few years ago got rejected from Hopkins Med School after getting a 3.98GPA in BME from Hopkins and getting a 40 on the MCATs (for those of you that don't know, that puts you in the top 1%). He was published a few times as well. On the bright side, he did end up going to Harvard Med.</p>
<p>This just shows that there is no correct formula to get into Hopkins Med School.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Med Schools have been known to be GPA whores and put that above other things, such as your undergrad schools prestige, a reason that it is so difficult to study engineering then go to med school. So it hurts less than you think to go to lesser known state schools in favor of a school like Hopkins. But Hopkins has several advantageous that other schools don't have like research opportunities and somewhat inflated grades.</p>
<p>To support Spe07,</p>
<p>Hopkins Med very rarely admit its own Hopkins undergraduate. A reliable source ("semi-insider") personally told me about 16 undergraduate are accepted each year. (this info is 6 years ago, so it may have changed.)</p>
<p>Harvard to Harvard Med is even more difficult. It is almost impossible.</p>
<p>Advantages of going to Harvard and JHU as undergraduate are research opportunities and faculty relationship. Certainly, large state public schools don't have research opportunities for every student and professors spread themselves too thin over the crowded school (stereotypically speaking).</p>
<p>"Hopkins Med very rarely admit its own Hopkins undergraduate"</p>
<p>I remember reading about 18-22 people at Hopkins med are from Hopkins undergrad... 16 undergraduates, if u think about it, is actually a really big number.</p>
<p>Edit: there's a thread about it lol. thats where i remember reading it from.</p>
<p>Harvard College-Harvard Med is "almost impossible," but, if the single school from which Harvard Med acepts the greatest percentage of its student body is... Harvard College. In order to get into both, you have to have done some impressive stuff, but if you're a hot shot Harvard undergrad, you stand a great chance of getting into the medical school. The same holds true for Hopkins, Duke, Stanford, etc.</p>
<p>ultimatemath, you should read my post here...
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=135854%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=135854</a></p>
<p>Hopkins Med "rarely" admits Hopkins undergrads because they "rarely" admit anyone!!! 16, 18, 22 - whatever the number is every year it is quite low...but it is still by far the highest total of any undergraduate university getting students admitted to hopkins med.</p>
<p>Harvard and Hopkins Med are the same when it comes to these facts -- they are the hardest med schools in the country to be admitted to for ALL applicants.</p>
<p>whoa. Hopkins doesn't have somewhat inflated grades. You get what you deserve here.</p>
<p>Just let me throw one other thing into this discussion...</p>
<p>...maybe in four years when you are graduating college, and planning for medical school, Hopkins might not be a good match for you??? Each medical school has its strength depending on what kind of medicine you want to study. </p>
<p>This is one of the things the prehealth advisors at Hopkins will assist with -- helping you set-up the "right" list of medical schools to apply to based on your interests. And shockingly sometimes Hopkins might not be the right fit. Same is true for Harvard, Wash. U., and the other great med schools in the country.</p>
<p>Just some food for thought.</p>
<p>spikedsoymilk,</p>
<p>I sincerely believe that hopkins does in fact grade inflate compared to a lot of other schools. Go pick up an offiical transcript from the registrar and look at the average GPA for students, it even breaks it down by schools for you. Last one I received, which was last spring stated that the average engineering GPA was a 3.15 or so, avg humanities was around a 3.22; the top quartile for engineering was a 3.57 and again higher for humanities. Compare that with other top state schools and you will find that hopkins is quite higher, a 3.6 gpa in eng at I believe it is UMich is the top 3% of students, not the top 25%. This just goes to show that classes are, in general, curved to just above a B and just below a B+, which in my honest opinion is inflated, most public schools curve to a C+/B- average. In addition, a prof of the math department explained to my calc 3 class that the math department likes there to be around a 30/40/30 A/B/C split, which again seems quite high to me, 70% of the class is getting a B in that scenario.</p>
<p>I stand corrected. Note that I was not purposefully trying to mislead anyone. :) Good luck everyone. So does any one have any precise figures on Harvard College -> Harvard Med?</p>
<p>o. the pre-med threads at CC say differently
sakky, a guy/girl who knows his/her stuff said that JHU deflated grades to fit a "bell curve"</p>
<p>tons of people get mid grades, a little get the extremes</p>
<p>I would have to agree with the above poster that the grades are given out somewhat generously here at Hopkins. I was just reading one of Sakky's threads where he talks about grade inflation and stated that a 15% above the average at a grade inflated school would probably be a B+/A-, I just took a class and got 5% above the average on the exams and somehow managed to pull an A!! Works out for me, and its not like its a bad thing, afterall it can only help you.</p>
<p>If the numbers that spe07 have stated are correct (and it would be really cool if we could see a link that verifies it, but as of now, I'll trust your word on it), then I would have to say that JHU is somewhat grade inflated. In particular, a 30/40/30 A/B/C split is amazing. I know a lot of MIT and Caltech students wouldn't mind having that kind of curve.</p>
<p>I wouldn't trust everything he says. In my calc class last semester only the top 10% received As.</p>