Med student from Europe wants to transfer to USA college... HELP!

<p>why ? because she actually has good grades. you might want to look at that thread again, because it seems that the only thing you got out of it was “she’s an international transfer student and she got financial aid”. you’re failing to see what other achievements she actually has. maybe one in a million is an exaggeration, but one in ten thousand or more is pretty fair game.</p>

<p>once again, go ahead and apply and post back here if you get it. i’ll sub this thread for later.</p>

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<p>YOU said that chances to get in are non-existent REGARDLESS of your GPA. so dont contradict yourself!!! </p>

<p>good luck with that kind of attitude. </p>

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<p>what? you misunderstood. I just said that I Have many other worries for now to worry about what americans think about the rest of the world. I dont see a problem with that attitude.</p>

<p>“You are unaware of the situation in most of the world, but thats something I dont really care much about, not my problem.”</p>

<p>Watch it, young man. This kind of dismissive attitude to those who are trying to give you advice you yourself asked for is childish and rude. You know nothing about me. As a matter of fact I lived in Europe – western and eastern – for years. Your first lesson about college in America should be: it is very important to be respectful and nice.</p>

<p>^^^I was saying in plural. and you misunderstood the sentence. And i am a girl.</p>

<p>i dont really care about convincing USA people they dont have it the worse. if they like to think like that, go ahead.</p>

<p>^^
Sounds like you care about convincing some “USA people” to give you tens of thousands of dollars. Unless you’re respectful and nice - it won’t happen.</p>

<p>oh come on… it only sounds prejudices… but it isnt.</p>

<p>I am unaware how it’s like to be from Africa, I ran into quite a lot people from America who are unaware how it’s like to be from Eastern Europe. Its a fact, or at worst: simple critic. Nothing offensive. I am first one to admit I am spoiled in some ways, but in others I am born in not the best place in the world.
All I know i wouldnt have these problems with college even if i was in America and lower class.
I love USA people, or any people, it’s just that everybody thinks his problems are the biggest, i am not exception, and i get regurarly confronted by some people with worse economic situation about this, just like i was doing here.</p>

<p>There are very very very few advantages of living in EX Yugoslavia over USA, that’s almost a fact. That’s all I was saying. Europe isnt only Belgium-</p>

<p>None of what you just wrote changes the fact that college in America, compared to Europe, is very, very expensive. Especially for international students such as you.</p>

<p>yes, agree… that’s why i said we have it harder</p>

<p>all in all, despite being attacked so many times in this thread… i think there were many rude people on the thread: kind of mocking me for even considering to get scholarship and NOT trusting FIRST RANDOM person on the internet (which has proven correct bc that person simply told something that’s not true at all.)</p>

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<p>ok, i’ve got new questions. let’s put this scholarship thing behind.</p>

<p>IF i somehow pay tuition myself… what are my chances at “better” schools?</p>

<p>to repeat
college GPA (probably) 3.6
HS GPA 3.84
math competitions
assuming that I do SAT reasoning, and SAT 2 very well. </p>

<p>of course other “usual” things.</p>

<p>Your college GPA (if it was converted correctly) might be too low to transfer to the top universities, but there should be many good colleges and universities that would be happy to accept you. Your high school GPA and SAT scores carry less weight after several years in college. (The SAT is, after all, designed for high school juniors. Acing a second grade spelling test in fourth grade does not mean much either.)</p>

<p>Besides your college GPA, the single most important admission criteria will be your letters of recommendation. You will need three letters of recommendation from professors, preferably professors who know you well and can speak about your talent and academic potential. The best letters say things along the lines of, “XYZ is the best students I have taught in years!” </p>

<p>If college in your country works like college in mine, getting letters of recommendation will be the most tricky part of the application. In my home country college students don’t interact much with professors in their first few years; students who aspire to study in the US have to make a conscious effort to get to know the faculty.</p>

<p>what do you mean by not top universities? which universities you think i could get into?
dont they consider GPA of your school, ffs. Having 3.6 from Anatomy, Physiology etc. is way different than with usual college courses!!
it is converted correctly, i’d be something like 4,57 out of 5 in our system</p>

<p>anyway… yes we dont communicate at all with our professors, but i assume i could talk 2 into giving me one. :confused: not a pleasant job for sure.</p>

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Yes, your grades will be interpreted in context. When I said “converted correctly”, I meant adjusted for American grade inflation. For example, the average GPA at my American college is around a B+, which is waaay higher than the average grade in my home country.</p>

<p>I cannot give you chances for specific universities because
(1) I am not qualified to do that, and
(2) I don’t know what your grades mean in the context of your educational system and what your letters of recommendation will look like. Those two factors will make or break your application.</p>

<p>GPA of my college is 2,48…</p>

<p>but i guess i am not going after all. anywhere.</p>

<p>i sent emails to some liberal arts colleges about scholarship, just to hear official answer, and if its negative… i will stay in this perspectiveless country.</p>

<p>If it’s any consolidation, it’s way easier to get funding for a graduate degree in the US than it is to get a scholarship as a transfer student. You could always come here for your Master’s or PhD.</p>

<p>hah i assume i wont be interested for that, i’ll be too old, and am not completely the school type, i want more real experience</p>

<p>btw. another option is getting a loan.</p>

<p>now, if i put myself in dept of 100 k $… how does it look like? i am googling but hard to find details… on how many years, how big is interest rate?
of course, assuming i get co-signer.
i have someone in mind, person has US citizenship, but for very short time (1 year) and doesnt work there, but has family there (son and his family) and spends there most of her time. could she co-sign? i guess as co-signer one must own something in usa </p>

<p>i wouldnt mind going in dept, even if i need to go back to my country… but i’d mind TOO BIG month rate. until i get a job after college, no more than 300 per month. after… i dont know what’s exact situation in US; but i have perspective job alternative that i will do if i dont find something better, thats being a psychotherapist which i have great reference for and lot oportunity and even some experience… so i guess that can bring money if i wont have a choice to do that-something-that-i’ll-like-in-3yrs, or maybe i’ll even like that a lot, i like it now but dont feel like it’s exactly what i want.
so anyways…dont know how much you need to live in usa to say how big month payment for a loan i’d give, but of course i wouldnt like to starve.
and if i stay in USA; i have apartment thats worth enough in my country (i guess enough for student loan), so i guess i’d sell it cos i wont need it if i stay in usa.</p>

<p>i just need to get out of the country i live in, if not now, when?!</p>

<p>a better question would be: which bank is going to loan you that much ? unless you have a job, land, property, or a co-signer who does, chances of you getting a loan for that much is low. and you’re using it for foreign education which makes it worse since the bank will be scared of you defaulting on payments and running off.</p>

<p>have you visited any banks yet ? have you checked what are their requirements for a loan that big ? and 100k is hardly enough to study in the US. 200k incl all living expenses would be a better estimate, unless you already have money lying around.</p>

<p>interest-wise, it depends on the banks. we have banks here which give out education loans which only gather interest once you graduate, but they can only be used for local universities. it really depends.</p>

<p>i need to have a property in the US?
anyway… 200 ? well, you are talking about 4 yrs?
i guess i would need max 3 yrs to graduate even if many of my credits dont transfer.</p>

<p>how big loans they DO give?
is it possible to get fin aid after 1 year there, ex. if you have 4.0 GPA? no??? i guess no.</p>

<p>what if i try to sell my kidney?</p>

<p>what are chances that my other kidney will fail during my whole life before i die? EXTREMELY LOW. </p>

<p>… BUT I GUESS that’s out of quesiton too, because… i would probably get an answer</p>

<p>“you cant sell a kidney because you are not U.S. citizen or resident” </p>

<p>:D :smiley: :D</p>

<p>just kidding :P</p>

<p>ey can i ASK certain colleges to consider me a freshmen? explain my situation, i had quite a few family tragedies that messed up with my education, and healthy issues.</p>

<p>i guess no, but maybe some individual colleges would cosider that?</p>

<p>its very ****ed up translating european to us system, because i am here in medicine school, so if i want to change to anything different, ex. law school, of course they dont look at my med school gpa etc., only HS; bc i wouldnt be dropping out of med school if its right for me, right?! so they look HS GPA and “SAT” (our sat) for any other school.</p>

<p>But in US as they have there the same programs in all colleges… they assume your GPA of your school is representative of your potential. Which isnt the case if you are in med school and you should be doing something else.</p>

<p>So in other words; no 2nd chance for us</p>

<p>…also comparisson of 4th grader and 2nd grader is seriously flawed. because i am trying to re-enter college, i am not trying to get into 4th grade, more like 2nd!
i wish they wrote super hard SATs for “4th graders”, i wouldnt mind it!</p>