Media on the Military

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<p>Since there are so many excellent online reports, this might be a good place to share. </p>

<h1>You're going to need DSL or cable for this one. It's excellent. Please share your impressions.</h1>

<p>Small Victories
Posted 2006-04-03 </p>

<p>In this week’s New Yorker magazine online, George Packer reports on what American soldiers have learned about battling the insurgency in Iraq, and whether those lessons have come too late. Here, Packer talks to Matt Dellinger about the situation, accompanied by a portfolio of photographs by Samantha Appleton.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/covers/articles/060410onco_covers_gallery%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.newyorker.com/online/covers/articles/060410onco_covers_gallery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Lots of interesting articles this month in Foreign Affairs:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.org/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.foreignaffairs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Listen and read about US military leaders calling for new blood at the top</p>

<p>NPR broadcast, Thursday, April 13, 2006
“Gen. Riggs Joins in Calling for Rumsfeld to Quit”</p>

<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5340711%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5340711&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Front Page of today’s New York Times:</p>

<p>“Bush Declares Full Support For Rumsfeld”</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Is this the same media that refuses to print pictures of 9/11, but can't seem to get enough of Abu Grahib? :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>where do you get your news?</p>

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<p>The internet and talk radio, where at least the biases are admitted to instead of falsely denied.</p>

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<p>So, are you saying that the New York Times, Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times don't adhere to the highest journalistic standards? (Despite the fact that NYT and LAT continue to accumulate the highest journalism awards like Pulitzer Prizes...) Ever read foreign papers, e.g., Die Welt, Stern, Frankfurter Allgemeine, The Times (of London), just to see what serious people in other parts of this planet think of America?</p>

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So, are you saying that the New York Times, Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times don't adhere to the highest journalistic standards? (Despite the fact that NYT and LAT continue to accumulate the highest journalism awards like Pulitzer Prizes...)

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<p>Oh, yeah. Journalists telling each other how wonderful they are! I bet you think the Oscars really indicate which movie is best! :rolleyes:</p>

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Ever read foreign papers, e.g., Die Welt, Stern, Frankfurter Allgemeine, The Times (of London), just to see what serious people in other parts of this planet think of America?

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<p>Yep, and you know what? I really don't give a damn what a bunch of people whose tails we either kicked or saved think about us, especially when they can't keep their own houses in order.</p>

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Did you ever take a methodology class in history at USNA?

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<p>No. They were teaching us to be leaders, not journalists.</p>

<p>New York Times? Credible? Is this the same NYT that recently posted a story about an interview with the guy in the Abu Grahib stories, only to discover later they had been fooled? The same NYT that had to fire one of their reporters for falsifying stories? etc., etc.?</p>

<p>If you want a good indicator of just how seriously these paragons of objective information are taken, take a look at their circulation numbers which are going down, down, DOWN. They're laying off staff and (in the case of the NYT) selling off assets to manage.</p>

<p>Sorry to bust your bubble, but the traditional media sucks, is blatantly biased to the left, MAKES UP news rather than REPORTING news, and has become the laughingstock of all thinking people.</p>

<p>I am now ready to be called ignorant, close-minded, and simplistic because I choose NOT to get my news where the Liberals love to pontificate. :rolleyes:</p>

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<h1>"If you want a good indicator of just how seriously these paragons of objective information are taken, take a look at their circulation numbers which are going down, down, DOWN..." zaphod</h1>

<h1>Hello, online newspapers--INTERNET</h1>

<p>interesting, my dear ultra-conservative friend who also listens to TALK RADIO, said EXACTLY the same thing about newspapers in America (I'm so glad we have freedom of the press and that we're protected by the First Amendment in The Bill of Rights!)</p>

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<p>methodology teaches one how to perform legitimate research.</p>

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interesting, my dear ultra-conservative friend who also listens to TALK RADIO, said EXACTLY the same thing about newspapers in America

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<p>Great minds think alike. Besides that, facts are facts. If you can't accept them, that's your own lookout.</p>

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I'm so glad we have freedom of the press and that we're protected by the First Amendment in The Bill of Rights!

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<p>So am I. Your point?</p>

<p>Isn't it interesting that the First Amendment only seems to apply to Liberals these days?</p>

<p>Don't believe me? Try praying over your lunch in a public school sometime. Try scheduling military recruiting event on the grounds of UC Santa Cruz. Try setting up a Conservative Club at Berzerkely. Try saying something against homosexuality in San Francisco. Try saying you support the war in halls of the New York Times.</p>

<p>Go ahead, and see just how much liberals REALLY respect the First Amendment! I DARE YOU!</p>

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<p>Where do you think the six generals (calling for Rumsfeld's replacement) get their news?</p>

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<p>Zaphod, I was going to post in here. Then you posted... my exact thoughts.</p>

<p>Good post.</p>

<p>Interesting that those six generals didn't have a thing to say while they were in the service.</p>

<p>"No politics"? Yeah, I'm sure. They're looking for attention, book deals, and political backing. And the left will give it to them. They'll stumble over each other to do so.</p>

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methodology teaches one how to perform legitimate research.

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<p>Obviously not being taught in journalism schools.</p>

<ul>
<li>rigged gas tank tests</li>
<li>forged documents</li>
<li>lying sources</li>
<li>rigged polls</li>
<li>making up stories</li>
<li>hideous bias while claiming none</li>
<li>etc., etc.</li>
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<p>I don't need a course to teach me how to do legitimate research. If, however, the results of such a course are what I've referenced above (all true stories), then it would seem that you need to replace "legitimate" with "leftist", in which case, why do research? Just make it up!</p>

<p>After all, that certainly fits better with what passes as liberal "thought" these days.</p>

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Where do you think the six generals (calling for Rumsfeld's replacement) get their news?

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<p>Where do millions of free Iraqis get their news?</p>

<p>Besides, what do I care about six generals who are so cowardly, that they waited until they were retired and safe to state their cases instead of standing up for what they believed and RESIGNING in protest?</p>

<p>I guess their careers were more important to them than their men.</p>

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Zaphod, I was going to post in here. Then you posted... my exact thoughts.

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<p>Look, USNA09Mom, look! Another talk-radio zombie!</p>

<p>:rolleyes:</p>

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<p>TN,
Military leaders do exactly that, they lead, and they aren't in the business of developing foreign policy. Look what happened to Billy Mitchell. Clearly, it would be considered insubordination and grounds for courts martial if they criticized the Secretary of Defense or President publicly. I'm sure that their foremost concern is for our country and the men and women in our armed forces. Furthermore, Congressman Murtha isn't promoting a book. These people are telling the TRUTH, finally.</p>

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<p>Oh, yes! The TRUTH!</p>

<p>EVERYONE else, including the TROOPS ON THE GROUND who keep reenlisting at record rates and who vocally SUPPORT the mission, and all the generals and admirals who are NOT vocalizing YOUR opinion, are LIARS right?</p>

<p>Jeez, what color is the sky in your world?</p>

<p>What must it be like to wake up and be immediately miserable? What's worse, what must it be like to have THAT as the only plank in your political platform?</p>

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<p>Zaphod-
All I can say is 2 thumbs up!!!</p>

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