Medicine Without Pre-Med?

<p>Hi all,</p>

<p>I'm a high school senior looking for a good medical college that doesn't require pre-med. One of my options is Singapore's NUS, where you go straight in and start your first year as a med student, but I'm hoping to find a college in the US that does that too. Also, a primary care college is preferable over a research-focused one. Anyone know of any such colleges or special programs?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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<p>Doesn’t exist - unlike in other countries where you can enter medical school straight out of high school, the US medical education system requires an undergraduate degree prior to matriculation into medical school.</p>

<p>Icarus, Is it possible that OP is looking for some 7/8-year combined programs? – although I think the way he put it is not very clear. If he is looking for some 4-year medical program right after high school, it does not exist. But there is a chance that he is asking for some 7/8 year combined programs which allow the student to avoid taking MCAT altogether, or having to meet a lower MCAT (or GPA) requirement.</p>

<p>I am not an expert on this, so I only know a few well-known top programs that were mentioned from time to time on this forum. (OP, if you search for these on CC, you should be able to find them.) Three of these are NW-HPME, Rice-Baylor, and Brown PLME. Among these three, I believe Brown is relatively more focused on primary care.</p>

<p>How good is your medicine-related EC, or EC in general? You are already a high school senior. If you have not built up “convincing” ECs in the past few years, it may be already too late for you to build up these. I know some students who were admitted to some very top schools (MIT, HYPS) but failed to get into one of these top combined programs, mostly because they were not good at the ECs the adcoms of these programs are looking for, not because their objective stat were not good enough. This is because very high percentage of these applicants have very good stat and there are so few students who are admitted for each program.</p>

<p>There are definitely some other similar 7/8 year programs that I do not know about.</p>

<p>In terms of tuitions that you need to pay, there is really no cheaper way to go through any medical programs, either the traditional one or the 7/8-year combined one.</p>

<p>Medicine without Pre-med is not possible, but why? The Pre-med requirements are extremely basic, just a few units of basic math and science. You can then do whatever you want, and as long as you maintain a GPA of about 3.8 you can get into top medical schools, along with good MCAT scores and community service.</p>

<p>^ I think it is meant to be a time to explore your interests and mature a bit before getting into med school.</p>

<p>Definitely nate. Making doctors is crazy expensive. Medical schools want any way possible to weed out people that might have a change of heart.</p>

<p>The main purpose of premed quite frankly is probably to weed out those who wouldn’t survive in med school. This does both med schools a service by providing only reliable candidates and the students themselves a service. Who wants to wait until age 22 and the 1st year of med school to find out they weren’t meant to be a doc?</p>

<p>I definitely agree with nate that college is a time of great personal growth and maturing. It is in everyone’s best interest to have mature people in medical school who are self-confident and know why they are going into medicine. This is part of the reason medical schools look so favorably on (productive) years off after college or other non-trad applicants.</p>

<p>There are combined programs. Just google combined bs/md or combined ba/md. None of them are taking less than 6 years and you still go thru UG within program. They are extremely hard to get in.</p>