Merit money... admission by numbers... Ross PA... Lots of questions :-)

<p>Hey, I’m an Arizona girl (that makes me OOS, yes), and I really like Michigan because it reminds me of my in-state school (except a million times smarter, which makes it a million times better). Unfortunately, being so far from UM means I have little to no idea about how the school works…</p>

<li><p>What kind of merit money does LSA or Ross give out? If any? Is it true that public schools tend to not give out too many merit-based scholarships?</p></li>
<li><p>If, say, one has a 4.0 unweighted GPA and a 2380 SAT, 6 AP exams taken (all 5’s, one 4 on Chem), and an 800 Math II, 790 Chinese, 750 Spanish… does that strongly portend an acceptance? How much of their admissions process is numbers-based? How about for the Honors program at LSA? I have a friend who was invited to the Honors program without application… and another who applied to get in… how does that work?</p></li>
<li><p>Anything you know about the Ross Preferred Admit program that isn’t on the website, go ahead and tell me, because that’s more than I know.</p></li>
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<p>Thanks!! :-)</p>

<p>1) Don't count on much merit money. It's near impossible to get even $5,000 a year from UMICH</p>

<p>2)Getting into UMICH is very numbers based. Ross is very EC based. Honors program is an invitation to apply dealio after you submit your application. You will get an invitation with those numbers. I do believe very few are instant-admits into LSA honors, will someone else confirm this?</p>

<p>3) Acceptance rate was 6% last year. Stats only qualify you. ECs and the ability to define yourself are imperative to getting into this program.</p>

<p>1) With your stats, I'm gonna say that you will get merit money. how much is a tossup. I'd say you'll land 20k a year or if you're lucky, a full Shipman scholarship. </p>

<p>2) see above</p>

<p>70% of LSA Honors are instant admits. 30 % get in on applying(writing an essay). With your stats you'll definitely get an invitation</p>

<p>With a meagre 6% acceptance rate for Ross PA's which is less than Whartons acceptance rate its difficult to pass chances. Definitely do apply , EC's count as does the essay , a lot. Much more than they do , in normal admission into the university.(This is the general assumption )</p>

<p>With so many applications to UM , the admissions process is very numbers based as it becomes easy to separate the many applicants .</p>

<p>magou- take a look at the scholarship offerings and explain to we how the OP is going to get 20k/year. You act like UMICH is just handing out scholarships. The OP is obviously extremely numbers heavy with little to no ECs, considering that she said nothing about her ECs and everything about her grades. She's not the only extremely smart asian with high scores and grades. Explain to me where this 20k is coming from. If my assumptions are correct, she won't get a shipman considering that shipman uses academics to primarily qualify the candidate and uses ECs/Personal Achievements to decide who gets the award.
<a href="http://www.finaid.umich.edu/Types_of_Financial_Aid/Scholarships/Entering_Undergraduates/outof.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.finaid.umich.edu/Types_of_Financial_Aid/Scholarships/Entering_Undergraduates/outof.asp&lt;/a>
<a href="https://www.lsa.umich.edu/lsa/students/scholarships/new/%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://www.lsa.umich.edu/lsa/students/scholarships/new/&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.finaid.umich.edu/Types_of_Financial_Aid/Scholarships/Entering_Undergraduates/otherschols.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.finaid.umich.edu/Types_of_Financial_Aid/Scholarships/Entering_Undergraduates/otherschols.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>As you can see most scholarships are a mix of merit and financial need, which the OP has made no indication that she qualifies for.</p>

<p>I'm not completely doubting you, but I know how difficult it is to get money from UMICH. I just don't see where an expected 20k/year is coming from.</p>

<p>20,000/year is pretty much standard for merit scholarships. For OOS, it's not like they give out so many 5,000, 10,000, etc merit scholarships. It's pretty much 20,000 or nothing, and with the OP's stats, she has a pretty good shot at the 20,000.</p>

<p>No, no, I promise I do have EC's (congressional intern - twice, founded a club, speech captain, student council, volunteer at autistic center and local library, violinist in community orchestra)... they're just not exactly anything truly glorious, but they're substantially more than "little to none". You're right though, I do agree my numbers are better than the rest of my application.</p>

<p>It's a lot easier to get merit scholarships if you're OOS.</p>

<p>Yeah, a friend of mine with lower stats and decent EC's got 20K in merit aid. I think MissBabara would have a good shot.</p>

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If my assumptions are correct, she won't get a shipman considering that shipman uses academics to primarily qualify the candidate and uses ECs/Personal Achievements to decide who gets the award.

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<p>Don't assume anything when it comes to the Shipman Scholarship. The determining process isn't exactly public so to speak.</p>

<p>I have met 9 or 10 shipman winners and they are all have amazing personal characteristics and above average on the grades/scores.</p>

<p>I dont mean to be a thread jacker....but I would like to know if the b-school provides additional financial aid for the 3 year BBA program on top of what you already get in your financial aid package?</p>

<p>I think the OP has a decent chance of getting 20k+ merit aid as an OOS student with excellent stats and good ECs. Agree that the Shipman is hard to predict, but you're in the ballpark.</p>

<p>Ok, my school sends about 20/175 kids per year to UMICH. We have had a couple of 35's/36's go there, but none have received substantial aid apart from the 1500 dollar regents. Is there that big of a drop-off between instate and OOS aid? Do they save merit for academic all-starts from OOS using UMICH as a safety in hopes of luring them in?</p>

<p>Barbara, forget it, you have no chances anywhere, you're headed for U of A, Sun Devil at the heart. </p>

<p>BTW, how was the rest of WW?</p>

<p>Avery</p>

<p>My understanding is that large merit scholarships are usually put toward luring OOS students who get into Ivies and other top schools, but got no finaid from those schools. They are also effective in luring top students from their state schools to come to UM.
They really don't need to give scholarships to top in staters because it's a good enough school at a cheap enough price to lure them from Ivies.</p>

<p>Yes, too bad Ivy's are cheaper than UMICH for me.</p>

<p>lmao hey avery... i resent that some people now actually know who i am on college confidential... which makes the "confidential" bit kind of messed up... but back to my topic, yeah, that's really interesting about more merit money for out-of-staters, i've never heard that before.</p>

<p>It depends on individual. I was told that UM is a states school, OOS might not weight as instate.
My Daughter has 35 Act, similar GPA and ECs, UM provide $7,000 grand and $5000.00 fed sub loan . She end up with Northwestern $35,000.00 grand and $7,000 Fed sub loan</p>