<p>Batgirl,
Funny someone posted a profile for Batgirl 3141 on the Stats Profile for Boston College listing a 3.5 GPA , 1250 SAT . Maybe that was a different Batgirl 3141 who also happened to apply to BC?</p>
<p>Maybe.. Since those are not my scores. My last post in regard to this, you can all go back and forth about how you didnt get merit aid. It's no wonder you didnt!</p>
<p>I have & I will continue, but the low offers to some highly qualified out of state kids make me question their commitment to academics & the future direction. My daughter loves the campus but I don't know if the haggling is worth it. She has a lot of other options at more highly ranked schools. I have no dog in this hunt. My kid is not accepted as an in-state. If she were, I don't know why I'd be posting on this board. I'm not here to spew any propaganda. Just being honest- Tx</p>
<p>P.S. I never realized that I couldnt change my mind from one school to another because I may have at one point indicated my enrollment preference before I received admission elsewhere. What are you CC's version of Big Brother?</p>
<p>You throw that "community college" stuff around at a lot on these boards...unusual for tactic for one of #1 ranking & stature. I don't understand why anyone would question your credentials. I thought Batgirl had left the building. (or batcave?) ...to the batpoles!</p>
<p>crazed.. In your post yesterday, the word in last sentence is spelled LOSE not loose. The only thing loose is your opinionated post! Your son, if he exists, is bright and humble despite you not because of you.</p>
<p>The inconsistencies in Batgirl's stats are a good reminder to not believe everything you read on these forums. Although most people use this forum in good faith as a way to give and receive information, others use it as a means to misinform and provoke people. Batgirl is obviously a troll.</p>
<p>Just so you know- I am also on the Syracuse site as my son was just admitted. Looks similar in that the merit money is all over the place, but none is enough as the expected cost of attendance is $50,000/year. </p>
<p>The only one happy on the site is one kid lucky enough to get enough funding to attend due to need-based aid. Glad for him. The posters got $0-12K/year (not necessarily stats related as at UD). Here is what this likely attendee posted:
35k fin aid!! CUSE FTW!
6000 scholarship
20300 grant
5500 loans
3200 work study</p>
<p>95.34 gpa
27 ACT </p>
<p>Batgirl- Actually, my son innately brilliant in spite of me AND BECAUSE of me. He is humble and I am a very proud parent. My posts, unlike yours, are consistent with his stats and I have used the information to help others, not to brag. I am just as eager to share his application rejections as acceptances. Sadly, most parents on CC are genuine, caring individuals, pretty open minded, however, there are kids like you that come on this site to annoy others rather than to provide any measure of substance or support. You will likely continue to inhabit there threads and justify your selection of school you attend by putting down others. </p>
<p>As parents, we are on these sites to help and guide our kids. It is a break from our jobs, laundry, cooking, etc. Don't you have homework to do or friends to "facebook"? If you enjoy coming on these sites to argue, I feel sorry for you.</p>
<p>a7856336: did your child get invited to the Distinguished Scholar Weekend? This is the target for UDEL -- it is the top 100 or so applicants. They are invited for a weekend of interviews for top scholarships including the DuPont (full ride). Those are the kids they are wanting to recruit with the big scholarship bucks. Last year, they had one who was selected as a Dupont Scholar who turned them down for Harvard. Unfortunately UDEL does not offer the scholarship money to any other student. It goes back into the kitty for next year (at least that is what we were told during the orientation for the weekend). </p>
<p>My point was and I think you must have misread it --- just because your child is a valedictorian, it doesn't mean they will get into Harvard and it doesn't mean your child should automatically get scholarship $$$ because they are a valedictorian. And yes, my child would not have gone to Pitt without the scholarship. OOS cost is over $32,000/year -- it would have been STUPID to go without $$$. Our state flagship is under $20,000/year and we would have happily paid it. It was his decision and we are THANKFUL he is enjoying his freshman year. Oh, it was the same child that turned UDEL down -- we don't have to worry about college applications again for another 3 years.</p>
<p>Life is not fair -- get over it and move on!</p>
<p>Crazed- congrats to your son.</p>
<p>One issue that needs to be taken into account is that UD has had to deal with issues related to the in-state/out-of-state ratio. As UD grew over the past 40 years or so it did so by increasing its OOS enrollment, which brought in a lot of extra tuition dollars than it had been used to when it served primarily only Delaware residents. It got used to that revenue and in the past 10 years, as its reputation/desirability has risen, a lot of Delaware residents found themselves shut out of UD. This made many Delaware taxpayers very upset - the only other public option is Delaware State, which is not seen as a viable option by most. So UD has had to work really hard to develop an alternative (it's a joint program with the community college - first two years in a program jointly run by UD and DTCC, then admission to UD main campus) and to not appear to be unduly favoring OOS applicants over Delaware residents.</p>
<p>So, as a Delaware resident and parent of a student who is in the college search and has UD on the list (has been admitted to school of engineering, Honors, and got 10K in merit scholarship), I would be a bit concerned if a inordinately high number/percentage of OOS students were being offered merit aid significantly above what comparable in-staters are getting. The 8th in her class student from NJ who was offered $5K - that's not bad - it's more than most of my daughter's friends have been offered and more than my son was offered when he went through this (he is now in his 3rd year at William & Mary and when they announce OOS COA for 2009-2010 it will be pushing $40K). That makes UD a very favorable cost compared to most other OOS and privates. One of my daughter's applies was the College of New Jersey, and she was "only" offered $7k there. Perhaps 8th in her class would have gotten more at TCNJ. </p>
<p>Some of the problem is the "taking it personally" thing I mentioned earlier. Some of it is the sense of entitlement -one poster even stated that an applicant is "entitled" to a bigger merit aid offer -that permeates our society. (In this case, some sense of entitlement would be a little more in-line when that sense of entitlement is toward the public schools in your own state.) For good measure, toss in the ever-increasing cost of higher education and the current economic woes. You don't get sumpin' for nuthin' (especially when you are OOS).</p>
<p>Hey guys, I'm gonna avoid the drama and just say: reading through this thread, I feel very fortunate to have been offered what I was, when there were so many other outstanding applicants who didn't get as much. I guess this is a reflection of the competitiveness of this year's class -- as well as the inherent arbitrariness of the process! </p>
<p>I'm one of the 100 Finalists for the UD Distinguished Scholars, which based on last year's results will likely guarantee me $20K a year in merit aid. I'm competing this weekend for scholarships that range from full tuition + research/study abroad stipend to full tuition + room and board + research/study abroad stipend + book stipend. </p>
<p>My statistics:
-- 2390 SAT (one sitting)
-- 4.0 GPA unweighted (1/334, tied with ~10 others) & 4.81 GPA weighted (2/334)
-- Six APs and six this year
-- An internship this year with a cognitive science professor at JHU
-- Nothing too outstanding as far as ECs: I just did what I liked, which included art stuff and science/math/technology stuff</p>
<p>A factor besides my stats that may have made a difference is the fact that I participated in UD Summer College in 2007.</p>
<p>Oh, and I'm out of state (MD).</p>
<p>By the way, on most of the sites my son applied to there seems to be a common theme. Expense of schools, merit aid discrepancies, and the kids who got money (or free grants) angry at everyone. I think CC in general, although I may be wrong, is full of bright kids (some exceptional) and lots of parents with very high EFC who are concerned about paying the high cost of education and weighing that against the relatively low cost of our in-state universities. As I stated earlier, the current economy has changed what money we have or can spend for many of us.</p>
<p>Picking a school will not be an easy decision for most of us. Once all the merit aid is sent to us (one school does not tell us merit until the end of the month although we've known for months of his acceptance and one other does not notify OOS of merit until after they commit on May 1) we can trim the list down wisely. We will have 2 in college for at least the next 4 years, maybe longer, as older son is planning on grad/law school. Younger son has applied engineering which we know may take 5 years to complete, so we are looking at paying an extra year of undergrad for him.</p>
<p>Looks like some of you posted while I was typing.</p>
<p>Poseur- Thanks for posting. It's always nice to see something like this. I hope you are offered the scholarship. Where else did you apply? You should be getting some great merit offers, though as I know from experience, it is much harder to get money from the top USNWR schools. Nothing wrong in going to UD. You will likely shine there.</p>
<p>Remember, as I tell my kids, you can go anywhere and be anything. No school will hold you back from any career (within reason).</p>
<p>I've been offered $27,500 a year from Case Western Reserve and a spot in RPI's accelerated PhD program (but I haven't heard any financial stuff from them yet). I've also gotten a "likely" to Wellesley (haha, yeah, my schools are pretty varied) and I'm waiting to hear back from some private schools that probablyyy won't offer me money (Northwestern, JHU, Brown, Princeton lolz). It's gonna be a really hard choice no matter what. </p>
<p>Thanks for the encouraging words!</p>
<p>Poseur-
Your list of schools is impressive. All great schools. Hope you get into all. You really can't go wrong at any of them.</p>
<p>Thanks! And I feel the same way, which is why it's going to be hard to choose -- it's hard to think about choosing even between the four I've heard from. :/ But I can't complain; I'm thankful for my options.</p>
<p>K9, I think much of what you say re resident's attitude is being proven by the merit awards being given out. That is absolutely the state's prerogative but it is also my prerogative, as an out of state parent, whose daughter is being recruited to a school portraying a different mission statement , to ascertain the facts & determine that this school cannot serve 2 masters . I agree with you that it appears the state by necessity or for political reasons is now focusing more on its own residents. That's fine, but by the definition of "limited resources", less will be spent recruiting higher quality applicants from elsewhere. You hit the nail on the head. Your state may have changed the mission statement for it's flagship. Inviting 100 kids is a nice publicity stunt. What % of those will actually ever graduate from Udel given what you say the trend is at your state flagship? Isn't that peeing in the ocean? PRECISELY- no recruit is "ENTITLED" to any offer- UD must compete in a free market for talent. Unfortunately, people like my daughter and the others on this board, not you or other residents, get to judge UD on this matter. Do you really think you emphasizing your state's economic issues will positively influence qualified UD applicants? Do you think people won't factor what you & other residents post on these boards into their own self interest. I can tell you one thing, you've helped educate me as to the mood in the state, perhaps not in the way intended, & I thank you for that. </p>
<p>PS- Just to point out there is NOTHING personal in the above so I'd appreciate if you do respond to this you could lose the drama. If someone questions your motivation for posting on a topic you have no stake in, ie merit scholarship, that's just part of intelligent debate. It's NOT personal -it's rational thought & I'm sorry if it upsets you but please don't take it personally.</p>
<p>MTnest -The majority of those posting on this board are discussing or considering a merit award offered to them or their child. Unfortunately, you are not. WE will decide when & if to move on & what WE consider fair. You are not the thought police. You took the $ from Pitt & then posted nearly 200x without a any criticism of that school & then downplayed anyone who questioned that school or its merit offers. I don't believe this Don Quixote-like approach of trying to control what's said on an anonymous board is working, but good luck at whatever your agenda is. These boards may not be the best place to try to start a glee club for your kids schools- but go ahead- have a party! Unlike your comments, I won't try to shut you up, but I will agree or disagree with what you have to say. Big difference. As "out there" as the Batgirl character is, I hope she keeps posting. The posts made by you, her & K9 have provided, perhaps unwittingly, valuable insights re the mentality surrounding UD</p>
<p>Hmm, I am reminded of an old vaudeville joke:</p>
<p>Guy: My father fought with Bradley, Patton, and MacArthur.<br>
Friend: Yeah, sounds like my mother-in-law. She can't get along with anyone, either.</p>