Miami, Purdue, Ohio U, OSU

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<p>Hello,</p>

<p>I am the son (junior in high school) of middle class parents and definately want to pursue an engineering (mechanical or aerospace) degree from decent, respectable university. I realize some of you guys are ivy league types and no offense I dont really want to spend all of the money for an education I can get at a decent public institution. I live in ohio and realize I could probably get into the major I wanted to at any of these ohio universities wish for about 20000 a year. My father graduated from purdue (my first choice), but I would most likely have to pay about 35000 a year assuming no type of FA. I was just wondering if you guys know anything about the ME at the various schools I listed. All info is well good and bad, if one has bad rep in the job please let me know. Also will it be any easier for me to get into ME at purdue if my father is an alum of ME at purdue (would I recieve any type of FA because of it)</p>

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<p>purdue stands head and shoulders above all the rest.</p>

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<p>Even if money is an issue, you still might want to apply to several good out of state of private schools. You could always earn a scholarship or grant.</p>

<p>Purdue is the best school of those listed, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's "head and shoulders above" Ohio State. I would probably classify them as being a mid first tier and low first tier school, respectively. I'm not sure of graduate employment numbers, though.</p>

<p>I would say that Purdue and OSU are head and shoulders above the rest, though.</p>

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<p>Ohio State is a low first tier??? What???</p>

<p>btw, it's not OSU, it's TUOS according to terrelle pryor in his signing day announcement</p>

<p>Engineering, maybe high second tier, overall as a university (should you ever decide engineering is not for you)?? probably not even second tier</p>

<p>Laughing from Michigan, standing head and shoulders above Ohio State</p>

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<p>You apparently have a chip on your shoulder for some reason. As someone who is completely unbiased, that's the way it is.</p>

<p>Ohio State is indeed a lower first tier school. I'm not talking about the made-up first tier, which only includes the Top 10 schools - I'm talking about the actual first tier.</p>

<p>And I wouldn't laugh at OSU that hard after the 42-7 spanking they gave you.</p>

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<p>Overall series: 57-42-6
win 15 more and we'll talk
Damn I miss John Cooper</p>

<p>I can laugh at TUOS all I want because I know when I graduate, all else being equal, I'd have a better education, better opportunities and network, better starting salary, better chance of getting into a good grad program than at TUOS
and I would also know that if one day I decide engineering is not for me, which I am somewhat in that process not quite sure yet, I wouldn't be screwed because almost any other departments here are stellar and within top 15. The same cant be said about TUOS. Not even close</p>

<p>I also know that if one day I want to work overseas people would know what university of michigan is...the same cant be said of THE University of Ohio State</p>

<p>I could go on and on</p>

<p><a href="http://mondesishouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/hes-going-to-university-of-ohio-state.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://mondesishouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/hes-going-to-university-of-ohio-state.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>I went to a better school than you. Do you want me to start talking trash about Michigan? I won't, though, because it's petty and displays obvious immaturity.</p>

<p>College is what you make of it, not where you go. Someone could go to Ohio State, get excellent experience, and be a much more desirable job candidate than a person from Michigan. Otherwise, why would we need lower ranked schools?</p>

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<p>actually, if you ever dig back to my posts in the past, two years ago, I was accepted to Wharton, MIT and Ross Preadmit and I chose Michigan engineering... so you can talk trash about Michigan all you want, but I chose to go to michigan even though i could get into the top of the top</p>

<p>My point here is , I do regret my decision, not so much about MIT because MIT social life sucks, but Wharton, I realize you get so much less opportunities going to a lesser school like Michigan than I would have gotten at Wharton.. you'd need to network you ass off to get interviews that kids at higher ranked schools would get just by meeting a gpa. this would be the same case for TUOS vs Michigan at a lower level.</p>

<p>For example, for BB Ibanks, you basically get interviews at Wharton by meeting their GPA cut off but at Michigan you'd need to do some networking to get the interview if you are only slightly above their cutoff</p>

<p>Just like at Michigan if you meet Cisco's 3.3 cutoff for interview they will just interview you without questions, no exceptions so far (14 out of 14 of my friends in CS), but at TUOS, you'd probably need to network you way into getting the attention</p>

<p>Also, some companies only focus on the on-campus recruiting, If you want to work at those companies, you're probably out of luck applying online with a pool of lesser school students. The more prestigious/higher ranked your school is, the more companies do oncampus recruiting at your school</p>

<p>Especially if you do not envision being an engineer for the rest of your life, or ever would switch to ibanking or consulting (which a lot of engineers end up doing), remember, BB ibanks and major consulting firms are all prestige wh**es...so prestige does matter</p>

<p>DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I MADE, choose the best of your options. If you go to a lesser school would you have a chance to succeed? would you have a chance to get a better job than a person at higher tiered schoo? sure you do, but you'll also have a harder time doing so.</p>

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<p>So, obviously there's something personal going on here. That's fine, but it's not constructive. Attacking another school is really bad form.</p>

<p>Not everyone can afford to take out $100,000 in loans to go to the "best school" that they can get into. Not to mention that many have the plan of a good BS followed by a great MBA or MS. Still, others have personal reasons.</p>

<p>At the end of the day, if you're a mediocre Stanford student, you'll have more opportunity a mediocre Ohio State student. But that's because they aren't the same student. A mediocre Stanford student should be a good student at Ohio State. That's why they're treated differently at interviews, not because of the school's prestige but because they're being compared relative to their school's difficulty.</p>

<p>There was a student recently that tested this theory. The authors found high school students with similar admissions statistics and demographics but that went to colleges that were ranked significantly different. They found that if a student was average at a high ranking school (like Harvard), that same student was at the top of the class at a lower ranking school (let's say Ohio State). They then tracked starting salaries after college and found that there was no statistically significant difference between the state schools and the private schools.</p>

<p>At the end of the day, if Ohio State is what he can afford, he should go there. He should just work to be at the top of the class.</p>

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<p>I was in a similar situation (from ohio, upper-mid class family, aerospace engineering). i applied Michigan, Illinois, OSU, and Purdue and i was accepted to all of them. In the end, I chose Purdue because it was a better $ per education than Michigan would give me, Illinois came up a scholarship but was too far away, and OSU just isn't on the same level as Purdue for engineering.</p>

<p>Of those schools, i would say that Purdue will give you the best engineering education. OSU is not TOO far behind, but it just isnt of the same caliber. Miami (J-Crew University) would be a distant third, and OU would be a very distant fourth.</p>

<p>good luck, bro.</p>

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<p>U of Michigan gives terrible financial aid to out of state applicants.</p>

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<p>Purdue is your best bet. Respected school that carries great co-op and internship opportunities. Don't go if its not right though. Your happiness= your success to some degree. As long as you go to some relatively respected school you can do just as well as if you went to one ranked in the top 10. It's also about the effort that you put in and the connections that you make.</p>