<p>Which one is better in every aspect?
I'll like to know the pros and cons of both please</p>
<p>They are both fine universitys, but Michigan is better in most aspects…</p>
<p>What are you planning on going to college for?</p>
<p>Michigan is pretty much better at everything, State is slightly cheaper. </p>
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<p>I’m thinking about going in for business and then maybe eventually try for law school after.</p>
<p>I just wanted to know which one is better academically, style of living; like dorms, food and things to do, also about better clubs and Greek life, also parties lol</p>
<p>Visit them both. UofM is “better” in general for most majors and tougher to get into if you are a B student although State has stronger programs in a few areas that make it a "better choice"for certain students regardless of GPA/ACT. The social life, dorm life, Greek life, stuff is pretty subjective…by visiting you can make that decision yourself.</p>
<p>Well UM has more clubs than any other university system in the country. I don’t know much about MSU’s dorms but most of the dorms here are bigger than I’ve seen anyplace else in the state-- though there are some buildings that are definitely exceptions. The law school is also a tier 1 law school and is very highly respected, and from what I read when I was doing my research 87% of their undergrads who apply are accepted. Don’t know if that’s true, but it sounded good to me anyway. My main reason for choosing Michigan over MSU is that I am not nearly as comfortable in East Lansing as I am in Ann Arbor, I feel safer here. Some people prefer EL. I don’t know much about the parties besides MSU has a great reputation for them, but I haven’t heard any complaints about the parties here, either. There are several greek houses within range of my dorm window and they sure sound like they are having fun. 
Though I certainly haven’t had anything close to enough free time to go to parties in the last few weeks. Given the caliber of the schools you are considering I would think about how much weight you would really want to give parties, managing ones time is not necessarily a cakewalk here. </p>
<p>I definitely second the idea of visiting both. You may be able to see you like one much better than the other just from that. One look at a few of the colleges I had been considering could count them off my list. And though I had already had my mind just about made up on Michigan when I came to visit, I was instantly in love and could tell I would be comfortable in this environment.</p>
<p>I could have SWORN i answered this thread yesterday and gave you a more complete answer, but my reply appears to have disappeared.</p>
<p>MSU has a prettier, more open and landscaped campus with woods and the Red Cedar River flowing through. East Lansing is surrounded by farmlands which provide scenic bicycling areas.(It began as an agricultural school and still has a fantastic horticulture department.) </p>
<p>UofM has the Arboretum, a small woodsy area with great running paths, however the rest of the campus is mixed in with the town of Ann Arbor, which is rather middling from an aesthetic view (apologies Wolverines). Academically, UofM is tops, but be sure to check each school for your intended major.</p>
<p>It is worthwhile to mention that Ann Arbor isn’t an ugly city, but I know what you mean. The campus sprawling out into the city doesn’t appeal to some people and is definitely worth noting.</p>
<p>Both schools have pros and cons. Since I go to MSU I can tell you that from what I’ve noticed…MSU students are on average more laid-back, friendly and less competitive. UofM academics is top-notch but MSU programs in most areas are very solid as well (the broad business college is very highly rated…top 20 in public schools). For undergrad, I’d say MSU and UofM are comparable in the level of academics depending on the programs in question but for grad school UofM far surpasses MSU (so I’d take that into consideration when making your decision). For the record, MSU parties are definitely more infamous than UofM ones…just think cedarfest. Although I was pleasantly surprised to see, that despite MSU’s party school reputation the large majority of students still care about academics quite a bit…most students come into MSU with a “work hard, play hard” mentality. When it comes to academic/social clubs, MSU has an infinite amount of organizations for nearly every interest possible…same goes for any massive school. Social life in both schools center around sports (football mostly for UofM, basketball/football to a slightly lesser extent for MSU). MSU has a more-campusy feel with trees everywhere and the red cedar river running through the middle of campus, while UofM has gorgeous buildings spread out/interspersed with a (in my opinion) not-so-gorgeous small city. Ann Arbor has more stuff to do in terms of city, but East Lansing isn’t all that bad at all…I always find stuff to do and am never bored (and I feel rather safe as well). Dorms-wise you’ll just have to come and see…they are probably comparable. Overall you would not go wrong either way…it really comes down to how you feel when visiting both campuses.</p>
<p>Good post, fa-la-la-lena. When I was applying I considered the two schools comparable in nearly every way. Were Michigan not closer to my family and my boyfriend’s school I might have been able to flip a coin.</p>
<p>Wolverines hands down.</p>
<p>Unless you’re the type who’s looking to work on Wall Street, it really won’t make much of a difference. They’re both great schools.</p>
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<p>It’ll make an enormous difference if you’re interested in engineering, any of the sciences, and pretty much a ton more fields. It’s only a debate for those interested in agriculture.</p>
<p>Engineering maybe, but the rest? Not much of a difference.</p>
<p>Agree with tetra- Michigan will always hold more sway than MSU. The rankings do count with grad schools and employers.</p>
<p>(Minus animal husbandry, pre-vet science, agriculture and turf management degrees.)</p>
<p>I’d like to point out that the nuclear physics program, supply-chain management, hospitality business, communications/journalism, international relations, speech pathology/audiology programs among others are all highly rated and NOT offered at UofM. MSU is a lot more than just an agricultural school and it happens to offer certain opportunities than UofM can’t really compare to (likewise, Michigan has excellent programs that MSU doesn’t have as well ie architecture). </p>
<p>Unlike Michigan, MSU has residential colleges (james madison college for public/international affairs, Residental college of arts/humanities, and Lyman briggs for science/math/pre-med majors) which are arguably great programs that compare to UofM, offering a smaller learning environment and an overall a lot more challenging academic program. Plus, MSU’s study abroad program/undergrad research opportunities are vastly expansive. </p>
<p>When it comes down to it, both schools are great options depending on what you want to do and anyone who argues differently is misleading and heavily biased towards one school.</p>
<p>^^^^ Or an elitist, which is par for the course on this site.</p>
<p>The rankings do not matter for a lot of grad schools. especially in the sciences. anyone saying UMich is clearly better in the sciences is full of crap. For grad school? yes, better. For undergrad? don’t fool yourself. after turning down UMich and their honors college to go to MSU and then get into a top 10 PhD program, I’m very comfortable saying the two schools are comparable. </p>
<p>On a side note, when Kalin Lucas and company get back to doing their thing starting in November, there’s no place I’d rather be then good ole Breslin.</p>
<p>I got into both schools, but it really was NOT a tough decision when it came down to it- MSU by a landslide for undergrad. </p>
<p>MSU has more laid-back people whereas UMich has this elitist attitude which just plain sucks. </p>
<p>MSU has more undergraduate research opportunities than UMich by far. </p>
<p>MSU has undergrad classes that are actually taught by professors, most at UMich are taught by TAs. </p>
<p>MSU has one of the best study abroad programs in the country. </p>
<p>MSU has residential colleges (like the one I’m in for arts & humanities) which simply cannot compare to anything that UMich has. </p>
<p>MSU has far more clubs and organizations than UMich. </p>
<p>MSU is just prettier than UMich IMO. I am definitely not a city girl so AA was not for me.</p>
<p>Many, many MSU programs outrank UMich’s and the same is true vice versa. You just have to look. Engineering? UMich. Political science? MSU has one of the top programs in the country, far out ranking MSU. </p>
<p>Now, UMich is ranked higher than MSU, this is true. But IMHO, that’s about the only advantage is has and most of that is just reputation, not actual merit. </p>
<p>Disclaimer: I go MSU and am planning on going to UMich for grad school, which is about all it’s good for now, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the replies!</p>
<p>I like Michigan State far better so far and the only reason i would(if i do) pick Michigan is because of their better academics. Some would say that’s dumb because college that i feel comfortable in is a better choice and some would say, college is really just suppose to be about the education. </p>
<p>Michigan seems to be in top 5 for almost everything academically and I’ve been told, I’ll be considered a better candidate for jobs coming from Michigan as oppose to State. </p>
<p>I just love MSU though, i love the real college campus feel, plus i’m not much of a big city person, MSU is only about 1.5 hours from home but michigan is 2.5 . There’s just so many other things that appeal to me about state over michigan. The only good thing about Michigan besides the academics are the dorms(from what i’ve herd, people say they’re bigger).</p>