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<p>You’re mixing up the numbers. For the Class of 2012, there were 1,375 accepted students (from a pool of 7,984), of which 577 matriculated. 134 students were admitted off the wait list, but that doesn’t mean that they all accepted Midd’s offer.</p>
<p>Sorry, I’m a n008.
Umm.
Hokay.
So each college has their own reply-by date, I think it’s May 1st for most places, ya?
So… if someone were to be wait-listed that person would have to accept another college’s offer, pay the deposit, and then wait and see if Midd accepts anyone off the wait-list? Then rescind matriculation at the other school? Aren’t most of the student over-nights in April though? ZO KONFOOZED!</p>
<p>Modadunn, this article reports otherwise: [Middlebury</a> College: Coping with recession - Apr. 10, 2009](<a href=“http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/10/news/economy/levenson_college.fortune/index.htm]Middlebury”>http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/10/news/economy/levenson_college.fortune/index.htm)</p>
<p>"Middlebury does take need into account when admitting students from its waiting list, and recently adopted the practice in international admissions. "</p>
<p>So are we saying “deferred” is the same as “waitlisted” (i.e., whether or not you need financial aid is a factor)?</p>
<p>No, I’m assuming they’ll approach my application need-blindly because I’m technically just a RD applicant now. I just brought up the point of their reportedly need-sensitive waitlist as an explanation for why their classes are so full of waitlisted students. Waitlisting many students could be a way to keep their funds in check.</p>
<p>Can you guys post your stats? I would like to know what the general trend is this year. Thanks!</p>
<p>Dedede… I understand how they view the waitlist which is after EDI, EDII and RD decisions have been made. But deferred is not the same as waitlist. Therefore, until all decisions are out and RSVP’s received to see how many spots are even open, it’s all need blind.</p>
<p>So 134 students were offered admission off the waitlist according to the 2010/11 Common Data set. But what I have seen in two kids having gone through college admissons is there is a lot of movement that first week or two following initial decisions. If you get into your first choice school and it wasn’t Midd, it’s usually customary to let the school know ASAP that you’re going elsewhere and won’t be accepting the spot. It’s usually only the kids who might be waitlisted elsewhere or who don’t know for sure which school they’ll attend (if they got into several schools but not their first choice) that hold things up to any degree. Some kids even got the call a day or two after initial decisions went out last year. Usually when you’re offered a spot off the waitlist, you have a very quick turnaround for an answer. But it is true, there is a chance you would forgo the deposit at another school if it comes after May 1. Calculated Risk I suppose.</p>
<p>I know a girl who applied ED to Colgate. Deferred and then waitlisted RD. She got an invitation to join the freshman class in late August! Like a week before classes started. She didn’t accept it because she had already settled her brain on her second choice (and I might add, is exceedingly happy there in her junior year). But this is pretty atypical as far as I can see.</p>
<p>Guys, I know I’m a bit late to this discussion, but it’s been a while since I’ve been on CC.</p>
<p>As a current Midd student, I feel pretty qualified to say that you will DEFINITELY end up where you were meant to be. Last year when I was applying to college I was absolutely in love with Columbia. I applied ED and was deferred. I faced a lot of the uncertainty and self-doubt that any “deferees” are surely experiencing right now. Middlebury hadn’t even been on my list until after my deferral, but I freaked out and felt like I needed to throw a few more colleges on my list to feel secure. My college counselor told me about Midd and as it didn’t have a supplement, I did a little research and just went for it (I ended up submitting a day late, if I remember correctly).</p>
<p>Well, April rolled around and I didn’t end up getting into Columbia. But I did get into Midd and based the options available to me I knew it was the right place for me. I didn’t even visit, I just mailed in my deposit.</p>
<p>Now I’m sitting here in my bedroom, two days from flying back to Vermont for my first J-term. I’ve made it through 1 semester at a school that a year and a few weeks ago I hadn’t even considered applying to. And I haven’t JUST made it through, I’ve learned a lot from it, grown up a lot, and had a lot of interesting/wild/bizarre/difficult/fun experiences.</p>
<p>My point is that yes, it is easy to fall in love with a certain college and be convinced that it is the “right” place for you, but sometimes it’s easy to forget that you can be happy at any one of a very wide selection of schools. I have trouble imagining myself anywhere but Midd and I am already so excited to get back there for J-term and second semester.</p>
<p>Maybe this post would apply more to Columbia deferees. But honestly I think that no matter what the school, the message to those deferred (and even rejected) ED transcends the individual situations: everything will work out in time, even if it’s difficult to see now.</p>
<p>And congratulations once again to those admitted. If any of you have any questions about Midd that you think a current freshman could answer, PM me and I’ll give you my email address or add you on Facebook.</p>
<p>smartalec2718…very nice post…my S and nephew would tell a similar story (different schools). Both did ED at “dream school”, nephew deferred, S rejected. Both added one last school with days of deadline and both ended up at that school. Both LOVE their respective schools and can’t imagine being anywhere else.</p>
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Modadunn, the fact that you had to specify the point where Midd stops being need-blind is evidence in itself that Midd is not ALWAYS need-blind like you said it was in your refutation to my theory.
This is your refutation to my theory for why there are large amounts of enrolled students who were waitlisted (according to caesar123), is it not? My theory was that waitlisting students may be a method of holding onto funds. Since Midd is need-aware on the waitlist, your argument is factually incorrect and thus did not refute my theory.
Either I’m missing something, you’re trying to cover your bum for not knowing that Midd is need-aware on the waitlist, or we’re arguing entirely different issues. I think you may be thinking that I’m under the impression that deferred applicants are evaluated under a need-aware policy, and so you are arguing that issue. I’m not under that impression, as I stated in response to Classof2015. I don’t know why you would argue from that angle when I already clarified that I know that “deferred is not the same as waitlist,” though. I’m arguing a theory for why there are a large amount of enrolled students who were waitlisted (again, according to caesar123).
Care to clarify what you were trying to argue in the first paragraph of your last post in this thread? I apologize if I seem harsh; I’m just trying to understand where you’re coming from.</p>
<p>Dedede,
Midd may be needs-blind for waitlisted students, but I still dispute caesar123’s claim that one third of the freshman class was originally waitlisted. That just doesn’t make sense - if 325 kids were accepted ED (close to 50%), and 33% came off the waitlist, that would mean that hardly anyone accepted RD decided to attend. As arcadia pointed out, just because 134 people were accepted off the waitlist doesn’t mean they are attending.</p>
<p>… and who said I was even arguing? 
I was merely saying that it is not typical for waitlists to go much past April so the odds of double deposit are fairly low. The majority of my response had nothing to do with financial aid.</p>
<p>So be clear… on another note:</p>
<p>Smartalec wrote a great post! And I concur that what she describes is very much true for many people and many schools. My own S included.</p>
<p>I received a letter saying my application was not considered through ED 2 , blah blah blaaaaaah -_-</p>
<p>why wasn’t it considered?</p>
<p>A girl from my school, a softball athlete who is being recruited, said that she and the Midd softball coach have been in contact a lot recently. The coach told her that her chances of admission are not very good, considering her SAT is in the 1800s. She also said that Midd hasn’t accepted anyone with a SAT score below 2100 yet. Can any of the accepted students disprove this? If not, Midd must really be trying hard to get the smartest kids possible this year. The twenty-fifth percentile SAT was 1970 for the class of 2011, so I’m rather curious to see how this year’s percentiles play out.</p>
<p>That may be true for SAT… but not everyone uses SATs for admission. My S did not. But he’s class of 2013, so maybe they weren’t as “smart” back then. I read it on a blog or in the paper (and heard it myself during S’s orientation in 2009), but every class seems to be the “smartest,” “most accomplished” in Midd history.</p>
<p>Curious, particularly in light of the comments of the Director of Admissions so recently. Perhaps it was coincidental, ie, the candidates thus far have been so strong in other areas that the SATS (thsoe submitted) were superfluous. One thing you can be sure of, however, is that you can’t get in on numbers alone. </p>
<p>[Middlebury</a> Dean Says SAT or ACT is ‘Seldom a Deal Breaker’ - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/middlebury/]Middlebury”>Middlebury Dean Says SAT or ACT is 'Seldom a Deal Breaker' - The New York Times)</p>
<p>Isn’t Midd one of the schools that accepts SAT IIs (if you don’t want to send SAT I scores)??</p>
<p>Haha CrewDad–I’ve never seen that before. Very clever.</p>
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