<p>Do minorities (especially black and latino) have an easier time getting into top universities?</p>
<p>This one black person who graduated from my school had 3.8 W, 3.5 UW Something like 2050 SAT and 29 ACT and not Great ECs. He got into Berkeley and Cornell.</p>
<p>This lead me to thinking. How big a part of admissions is race?</p>
<p>Yes it does. Race plays a big role in college admissions. Colleges heavily favor Under represented minorities. These URMs are Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans. They also favor any immigrants who came to the US seeking refuge. On the other hand, it’s much harder for Asians and Whites to get into top tier colleges.</p>
<p>Yes, and if your the first gen, it helps even more!</p>
<p>Race does play a role but it does not play a “big” role as the first poster stated. A person who is unqualified, regardless of race, will not get into the institution, especially extremely selective institutions. Race plays as large(or small, depending on the school) of a role as legacies who have donated a lot of money, development cases, and athletic recruits.</p>
<p>Well that is true. But suppose you have two individuals with extremely similar statistics who apply to the same competitive colleges. Consider one of the applicants to be Black, and the other Asian. Which applicant will be selected? I put all my money on the Black person. URMs have a greater chance of getting into top colleges, even if they might have a lower SAT by about a hundred or two hundred points or a GPA that is half a point less when compared to their Asian and White competitors. If you don’t believe me, look at the threads for the Acceptances/Waitlists/Rejections. They can be found by clicking on one of the Ivy League schools, and there should be a sticky thread for each college about this.</p>
<p>If Whites and Asians have a good application, then
they will have a fair chance of acceptance (and in sometimes its worse for Asians). If URMs have a a competitive application, they have a great chance of acceptance</p>
<p>I didn’t say there was no advantage, but race doesn’t play a “big” role as you initially stated. And many people don’t seem to realize why affirmative action still exists- it’s because the ramifications of slavery, segregation, and oppression of many minorities is still present today, even though studies have proven that affirmative action helps Caucasian females the most.</p>
<p>Your thinking is 10-20 years behind the times. </p>
<p>For top schools the law of law numbers has neutered the need for a preference. E.G. 400,000 minority kids will graduate. 2,5% will be exceptional students so the top 10,000 students leaves no shortage of great candidates. It’s likely that you don’t know all the facts re:your friend.</p>
<p>Re: The Asian thing. Good kids from all races get rejected. It’s not Asian discrimination. It’s supply and demand.</p>
<p>Reverse discrimination. So unfair.</p>
<p>If I’m not mistaken, non-elite Christian colleges (Villanova in particular) favor Asians somewhat…</p>
<p>See, race plays a large role. The reason for this is that, each and every college has a quota for the number of students, or rather, the percentage of students they would like to take from each race. And if you’re Asian, then (apologies for the stereotype) but you have to somewhat compete with the entire Asian race. This brings you to a disadvantage because of the number of applicants and the strength of the applicants. The same applied to black or hispanic, but vice versa.</p>
<p>Yes, and it’s so unfair for the asians :(</p>
<p>I’m so tired of the poor me, Asian, thing. The only thing that is unfair is the way Asians keep perpetuating the myth for self interest. BTW there’s a much larger population of blacks and Hispanics (US) than there is of Asians, accordingly even if there is a smaller percentage of top students, the larger population more than compensates for it. Good kids from every race will be rejected. There is simply not enough seats. Stop the whining!</p>
<p>I’m with Jazmine and Sosomenza. You don’t prove these things by looking at a bunch of forum discussions by people who hold the same ideas you do.</p>
<p>What makes you certain there are quotas? You know the SC disallowed quotas. You have some info we can learn from? Because plenty of highly respectably educated posters on a string of threads haven’t found convincing proofs. Just speculation.</p>
<p>Think about it this way. Blacks and Latinos have higher poverty rates, are more likely to encounter police discrimination and prejudice in general, and are more likely to not have health insurance. Simply put, as a general population, they have it tough. If a student from those circumstances gets a 2100 SAT and is involved in school and their community, as an admissions officer I would have as much respect for them, if not more, than a white or Asian applicant from an affluent background who had their hand held throughout the admissions process.</p>