More Presitige? Duke vs. Brown

<p>What do you think?</p>

<p>who cares?</p>

<p>intended major?</p>

<p>i dont really see why it matters, both schools are good</p>

<p>accionara, did you really get into harvard? or was that a joke</p>

<p>Prestige-wise they are equal.</p>

<p>yeah I think they're equally prestigious. I had a difficult time choosing between them last year, but in the end, I chose Duke because it was stronger in the sciences IMO. I think the real difference between the two schools will stem from what you want to study. Duke has a lot more resources, it seems to me, in the sciences whereas Brown is probably stronger in the humanities.</p>

<p>chlor, I got into Harvard as well as Duke.</p>

<p>Duke's student body is more selective, but Brown has the Ivy thing going for it...I think Dartmouth Brown Penn Duke and Columbia are tough places to decide between because they are so similar prestige wise...just naming those places because students accepted at one of those usually get acceptances at the other</p>

<p>by no measure is duke more selective than brown.
selectivity is governed by two things--acceptance rate & yield. brown trumps duke in both, making brown better able to select the students they want (particularly at the the upper end of the applicant pool) than duke</p>

<p>Brown ranks #8 in selectivity, while Duke ranks #12.</p>

<p>In the "Revealed Preference" rankings - based on head-to-head preferences of top students, Brown ranks #7, and Duke #19.</p>

<p>Hmmm, acceptance rate and yield are two ways to look at selectivity, however I meant the quality of students who attend the school.
Average SAT's and such are higher for Duke's student body...making them more selective from the way I look at it. Not by much though.</p>

<p>Is this the revealed preference survey from 1999 that people used to cite...just curious</p>

<p><a href="http://post.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/hoxby/papers/revealedprefranking.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://post.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/hoxby/papers/revealedprefranking.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Its interesting to note that Amherst is ranked higher than Duke. What do you all think about this? I have always assumed that Duke's prestige surpasses Amherst's.</p>

<p>"Student selectivity (15 percent). A school's academic atmosphere is determined in part by the abilities and ambitions of the student body. We therefore factor in test scores of enrollees on the SAT or ACT tests (50 percent of the selectivity score); the proportion of enrolled freshmen who graduated in the top 10 percent of their high school classes for all national universities and liberal arts colleges, and the top 25 percent for institutions in the master's and comprehensive colleges categories (40 percent); and the acceptance rate, or the ratio of students admitted to applicants (10 percent). The data are for the fall 2004 entering class."</p>

<p>I always use this term in quotes, because I am not sure what it means.</p>

<p>The RP study, according to its authors, measures, by definition, the relative "desirability" of schools. Whether that is the same as "prestige" is unclear.</p>

<p>Similarly, cross-admit numbers - like numbers derived from the RP study, tell us what fraction of applicants admitted to both School A and School B opt for School A.</p>

<p>We do not know the "reasons" why those with a choice opt for School A over School B. Presumably their reasons can be many and varied.</p>

<p>There WAS a study recently polling applicants as to which factors were important in making a choice. Reputation in expected field of study ranked high. Location ranked high. Overall reputation was middling. USNews standing and the quality of the athletic program were among a myriad of factors ranked lower.</p>

<p>Oh, we're obviously more well-known. How many times have we been in the news lately, relative to Brown?</p>

<p>This is a sad joke, by the way, not a serious comment.</p>

<p>In my opinion all of these schools are equals in terms of prestige:</p>

<p>Duke
Brown
Penn
Dartmouth
Columbia
Amherst
Williams
Swarthmore</p>

<p>think of duke as equivalent to stanford- tied for #5 in top college lists
(<a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;)
they are non-ivies but are are good enough academically to be one. as the awe of being an ivy fades over time, Duke prestigue rises. look at trends; i predict duke will replace h,y,or p within 10 years.
the lax scandal will soon be forgotten. does anyone still think of harvard as the school whose pesident thought women were inferior to men in math? i think what i would be most proud to tell my grandchildren i went to.</p>

<p>In 10 years it will be HDS instead of HYP. duke and stanford are still rising stars while yale n princeton are falling.</p>

<p>the lacrosse scandal is a load of garbage anyway. Just a opportunistic stripper trying to make some money off lawsuits of rich kids. this happens at every school, like 5 years ago 3 princeton students murdered a harvard student yet no1 remembers it now.</p>