more stupid questions about ap credit/orientation/clusters/ges etc etc

<p>so i know these topics have been addressed 2087372 times before, and i'm sorry to bring them up again, but:</p>

<p>because i didnt score high enough on the sats, the only way to get out of the writing I requirement is to get a 4 or a 5 on the ap english test, right? well, i kind of doubt that will happen, so i started thinking about what that means.
i want to take a cluster, but would i get writing ii credit if i didnt have writing i credit yet? because theres a good chance i wont have my ap grade in by the time i go to orientation, so i dont really want to sign up for a writing I class and then find out that i don't need to take it. But, if I don't, will i get writing II credit for the cluster?</p>

<p>Also--AP credit only gives me extra units, right? Or can they cover ge requirements too?</p>

<p>And, while I'm posting, i guess i'll bring up the age old question again:
would you advise me against taking a cluster related to my major? i'm pretty sure i'm going to major in history, and i want to take a cluster, but the only one that really interests me is the 60s one. I know its smart to take a cluster that is from an area outside of my major, so i get rid of GE reqs, but the 60s cluster sounds really, really cool. so what should i do?</p>

<ul>
<li><p>by earning a score of 3 or higher on the Advanced Placement (AP) English Language and Composition or English Literature and Composition exam.</p>

<ul>
<li>by earning a score of 30 or higher on the combined English/writing section of the ACT Assessment.</li>
<li>by earning a score of 680 or higher on the writing section of the new SAT Reasoning exam,
or on the old SAT II Writing subject test.</li>
<li>by earning a grade of C or better in a transferable college-level course in English Composition.</li>
</ul>

<p>If you have satisfied the requirement in any of the above ways, please send us your official transcripts/test results immediately.
* by earning a score of 8 or better on the UC Analytical Writing Placement Exam (AWPE). </p></li>
</ul>

<p><a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/NewBruins/AWPR.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/NewBruins/AWPR.htm&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.ucop.edu/sas/sub-a/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ucop.edu/sas/sub-a/&lt;/a> (UC Analytical Writing Placement Exam Info.)
<a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/APCredit.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/APCredit.htm&lt;/a> (AP Credit Polciies)</p>

<p>Emmeline, that's different than Writing I, if I remember correct.</p>

<p>whyxbotherx:
<a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/APCredit.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/APCredit.htm&lt;/a> So, no, APs will never satisfy GE requirements; they're only extra units.</p>

<p>Your questions would have been answered at orientation... but here they are in advance. :)</p>

<p>Actually chances are, UCLA <em>will</em> have AP scores by Orientation Session 101. (They will receive it around July 1, which is before any session, if I remember correctly. They received it at the end of June last year. If UCLA has it, it will be posted on your MyUCLA.)</p>

<p>But anyway, just sign up for English Composition 3 anyway to satisfy the Writing I requirement. You can always drop it anytime after Orientation, which is better than trying to find an open slot.</p>

<p>And no, you cannot get Writing II credit until you satisfy Writing I first (before the start of Spring Quarter).</p>

<p>I would suggest that you take the cluster you enjoy... otherwise you probably won't want to spend a ton of time on something you don't like as much. However, the only exception is if you plan on doing a lot of things (pre-<em>, double major, minors, etc.) and need to use your limited units wisely. If that is the case, then pick a cluster (if you still want to do cluster) that does not overlap with courses that your majors/minors/pre-</em> covers already.</p>

<p>I thought if you passed the Analytical Writing Placement Exam, you get exempted from taking Writing 1? oh, and you can find out your AP score on July 1, by calling in.</p>

<p>could i simultaneously receive credit for writing I and II?</p>

<p>[uote]I thought if you passed the Analytical Writing Placement Exam, you get exempted from taking Writing 1?

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<p>Can someone verify this? Can we clear Writing 1 with the placement exam?</p>

<p>Writing I and II Info
<a href="http://www.college.ucla.edu/up/counseling/regulations/writing-sub-page.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.college.ucla.edu/up/counseling/regulations/writing-sub-page.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The AWPE only satisties the Entry Level Writing Requirement (formerly Subject A).
<a href="http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog05-07under-5.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog05-07under-5.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Entry Level WR is basically equivalent to EngComp2 and Writing I is equivalent to EngComp3.</p>

<p>And no, there is no way to get Writing I and II credit for anyone course, hence the requirement of passing I before you can get credit for a II course.</p>

<p>but you can take a cluster and fulfill both Writing I and II? there is no prequisite for a cluster</p>

<p>Don't take a cluster that overlaps with your major. It is just not worth it. I have friends who are history majors and are in the 60s cluster, and while they love it, they are not getting rid of any extra GE classes. Their history pre-reqs would have gotten rid of the same GE requirements. I am an poli sci/econ double major and am taking the Cosmos cluster. It is not my favorite class, but at least I will avoid harder science classes in the future. However, in the end, this is just my opinion.</p>

<p>And no, there is no way to get Writing I and II credit for anyone course, hence the requirement of passing I before you can get credit for a II course.</p>

<p>There is no prereq for cluster... you just wont get the WII credit if you don't have WI already.</p>

<p>^ ok thanks. im guessing that engcomp 13 class that most of us will have to take is going to fill up very quickly that first quarter, unless there are alot of sections</p>