Most FAQ about admission at MIT

<p>In this thread, we'll try to organize the questions that appear very often. Do not hesitate to recommend past posts by posting links. </p>

<p>I'll start with a few:</p>

<p>*How many SATIIs? With the new SATI, how many SATIIs are required? *
See link to MIT:Testing</a> Requirements </p>

<p>"For entry year 2006: SAT I (either the old version or the new version, available beginning March 2005) or the ACT (with or without the optional writing test). In addition, we require three SAT II Subject Tests: one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)), one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m), and the third in any area of your choosing.</p>

<p>"For entry year 2007 and beyond: SAT I or the ACT with the writing test. In addition, we require two SAT II Subject Tests: one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)), one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m).</p>

<p>"For non-native English speakers (for entry year 2006 and beyond): You have two options: 1) take the tests required for native English speakers (see above), or 2) you may take the TOEFL and two SAT II Subject Tests, one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)) and one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m)." </p>

<p>SAT I (either the old version or the new version, available beginning March 2005) or the ACT (with or without the optional writing test). In addition, we require three SAT II Subject Tests: one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)), one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m), and the third in any area of your choosing. See Matt McGann's blog at MIT:<br>
<a href="http://matt.mitblogs.com/archives/2005/08/testing_require.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://matt.mitblogs.com/archives/2005/08/testing_require.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>** Where do I find the MIT admission's blogs? **
... there's an article about them in today's The Tech online. You can access the blogs through the MyMIT portal, or directly by name (e.g. <a href="http://ben.mitblogs.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ben.mitblogs.com&lt;/a> or <a href="http://matt.mitblogs.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://matt.mitblogs.com&lt;/a> or <a href="http://nance.mitblogs.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://nance.mitblogs.com&lt;/a> for the Admissions officers' blogs). Often, a topic of concern to prospective students on CC has already been discussed by Admissions officers on their blogs (a good case in point is the question of what supplemental materials could be submitted with an application, and how to do so, which Matt McGann covered in an entry just this past week). And visiting the student blogs (also linked from the right-hand columns of the Admissions folks' blogs listed above) gives you a great idea of what student life is really like. Plus they all accept (and welcome!) questions and comments! Visiting the blogs regularly is highly encouraged. :)</p>

<p>How many recommendations are needed? **
MIT requests 2 teacher recommendations, one from a math/science teacher ("Evaluation A"), and one from a humanities teacher ("Evaluation B"). Additionally, the "Secondary School Report" form should be filled out by your guidance counselor or principal. Regarding further recommendations, see Matt McGann's recent Admissions blog entry on the subject of supplemental materials:
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**Extra recommendations.
If you feel an extra recommendation would show an important additional side of you not already covered, you may send in an additional letter of recommendation. This in general would not need to be on an MIT recommendation form from the application; a separate sheet of paper is most common. In general, third recommendations from a teachers do not provide much additional insight; the most helpful supplemental recommendations come from people who know you well outside the classroom. Some helpful extra recommendations I've seen have come from research mentors, youth group leaders, coaches, and bosses. If you decide a third recommendation is necessary, have your recommender send this via US Mail to MIT Admissions, and be sure your full name and date of birth are included.

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I trust this answers your questions. I recommend Matt's blog for lots of information on the application and admissions process: you can also link from there to the blogs of other admissions folks and current MIT students, for a very good sense of what the admissions process, and student life, is like.</p>

<p>*When is it appropriate to visit? *
My son also visited as a junior (although in March). We took a tour, had the info session (detailed schedule available here), and checked what classes were available</a> for sitting in. There are definitely classes held on Fridays, but check the list to see if there are any in your departments of interest. The "Campus Tours and Information Sessions" page in the Undergrad Admissions website has lots of useful links. (But it's hard to link here: go through MyMIT for easiest access.) There is also a page there on the "Overnight Program" which notes:
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From October through February, any high school junior or senior may arrange an overnight visit.

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so you could surely arrange this in Nov. as a junior if you wanted to. There is a link to the "Overnight Visit Registration Form" on that "Overnight Visits" page.</p>

<p>Our visit to Caltech showed us that it was not for my son either, by the way. He seems quite happy at MIT.</p>

<p>Does MIT accept rush reports
Ben Jones says: We do. No worries.</p>

<p>How much time is spent on an application? And do know any good jokes?
Ben Jones wrote: Do you mean on your end or on our end? My guess is that significantly more time is spent on your end. :-) Sorry, bad joke.</p>

<p>Well, let's do the math. First a senior staff person will do a quick read to make sure there aren't a bunch of D's or combined 400 on the SAT. This takes about 10 minutes tops. Any application that has even a remote chance of making it through selection committee will make it past this stage. This is just to make sure we're not wasting time doing full reads on people who aren't competitive (and by that I mean <em>really</em> not competitive).</p>

<p>After than, 2 readers will read everything in your folder (yes, everything) and write individual summaries. Figure 25-45 minutes per reader, depending on the speed and experience of the reader and the size of the app.</p>

<p>Then selection committee, where different groups (each generally comprised of 2-3 admissions officers and sometimes a faculty member) will discuss the app for ~10 minutes each, guided by the two summaries (but able to access anything in the folder they want). If it's a clear admit, sometimes the group can admit, but generally an admitted app is seen by at least 2 groups and usually more like 3, even 4.</p>

<p>Then Marilee (Dean of Admissions) will personally review each and every admit (I don't know how long, prob 5-10 minutes) before approving the final decision.</p>

<p>So I'm not sure if your question meant just reading, or the whole process - but either way, you can figure it out from the info above.</p>

<p>Does MIT mix and match ACT and SAT?
Mootmom wrote: While they ask you to list on your application your scores for your best single-sitting composite score <em>OR</em> for the date on which you received your best math score, they will use the official score report you have sent to them and (as Timur says regularly) look at whatever scores make you look best. If your best scores came from two different test dates, they will notice that and proceed accordingly. They will use whatever makes you look best.</p>

<p>Perhaps the issue of rush</a> reports?</p>

<p>EDIT:</p>

<p>And the</a> admissions process.</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=87987%5DAre"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=87987]Are&lt;/a> MIT students all nerds?<a href="not%20sure%20how%20conducive%20this%20thread%20is%20to%20a%20quick%20summary">/url</a></p>

<p>There have been a lot of threads recently on sending research papers and other supplemental material. [url=<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=105232%5DThis%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=105232]This[/url&lt;/a&gt;] and [url=<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=103877%5Dthis%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=103877]this[/url&lt;/a&gt;] seem to be typical.</p>

<p>This thread discusses word limits for essays (and exceeding those limits), and the process an application follows, through readers and committee.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=84935%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=84935&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Trinity you rock! Thanks for this thread.</p>

<p>Hey this question is directed toward Ben or Trinity?? Whoever can answer it, I guess.</p>

<p>Currently I have taken the following SAT II Subject Tests:
-Chemistry
-World History</p>

<p>This year I am planning to take the following:
-Math I
-Math II
-Physics
-US History</p>

<p>When I apply to MIT, obviously I will use my two highest scores for Math II and Physics; however, does MIT look at your other SAT II scores in determing admissions? Thanks for the response guys.</p>

<p>MIT only considers your highest scores, no matter which test dates they were on, and how many times you took the tests. MIT does NOT take into consideration the Writing part of the new SAT Reasoning Test.</p>

<p>But why do they ask for your highest combined score for the SAT on a specific date? Do they care about this score or do they care about the highest score combined score among different dates? From your entry, it seems MIT is interested in the highest combined score throughout all the exam dates. I know I'm being a bit unclear. Let me provide a situation...</p>

<p>For example if I scored 620V 650M 690W on one date and 660V 650M 590W on another date. Will they consider the first combined set (higher combined score) or will they consider the following set: 660V 650M 690W? </p>

<p>Also, on their form, I posted my highest combined score (the first one with the higher writing). Now, having found out that they don't consider the writing part, how will they evaluate this score? Should I have done this? Will they look at the other scores?</p>

<p>I'm really confused!</p>

<p>I think you did the correct thing: they ask for the date of your highest combined total score on the application (or the date of your highest math score, but since both your math scores are the same, this point is not relevant). They will receive and see all your scores from College Board and will note that some individual sections were higher on another date, and will take this into account in deliberations. The app asks for a single date, but they will look at you as a totality and will use what puts your accomplishments in the best light.</p>

<p>Hopefully they'll consider me in the best lignt :-) ... My stats are definitely my weakest point, so I really need to put them in the best light. I'm sure I put down the right score (because it asks for a single date). I'm just unsure as to whether MIT will calculate my highest combined score. I've heard from some that they look at the highest in a single sitting, others have said MIT will combine your highest scores (as Olo, likewise, seems to suggest).</p>

<p>I really need to request a name change to Timur. :)</p>

<p>Your id :-)?</p>

<p>I applied EA. If I took the November SAT Reasoning Test, do I need to send the Rush Reports or not? My understanding is that after your scores are online, the reports usually take 2 weeks to get to the school. This indicates a December 5 arrival. Isn't that a little too late?</p>

<p>I've been told that you don't need to rush them.</p>

<p>No, you don't need to do a rush report. As long as you specified MIT as a recipient of your scores in the November test, you should be fine.</p>

<p>Since MIT recieves the scores around December 5, how do they evaluate the students who are missing the scores? Are these students evaluated between the 5th and the sending date? Or are they deferred?</p>

<p>Thanks, you've just affirmed my assertion that MIT has the best admissions process out of any school. Two responses in CC in less than 10 minutes on a forum that is not visited that much on CC. Thank you for the response, without your help, I would have been up at 4 in the morning on November 21st waiting to rush report my scores :)</p>

<p>Doh! 1 minute too late :-).</p>

<p>A question worth asking is whether Mit mix and matches sat with act scores. If you do well on reading for the act, but do poorly on the sat reading, is it worth retaking the sat for a better score when your act reading score is already quite good? Also, in general if we do well on the act and poorly on the sat is it worth retaking the sat to show we can do well on it, or is our stand alone act good enough? (remember colleges see all sat scores even if you dont want them to so when you mail in scores for your sat2s, they will see your sat1s.) Wouldnt the time be better spent perfecting essays etc.?</p>

<p>Yes, the time would be better spent perfecting your essays and doing the things you love to do.</p>