Music recording tech

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<p>I'm currently majored in business administration. I want to learn how to produce music but have a background in business as well. We're I can someday make or run my own record or production company. I have to semester left at CC before i transfer and i really dnt know want should i major in. I want to start my own digital record label/ company and produce and write music as well. My question would majoring in MIS with a minor in Cs be able to accomplish. My dream of starting my own digital label? </p>

<p>If i was to Major in MRT with a minor in EE or CS which minor would i choose to accomplish my dream? </p>

<p>Plz and thanks for the help</p>

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<p>You won’t gain any respect in this field if you don’t have experience with music or know other aspects of music, like music recording concepts, equipment, and also music theory and harmony. Do you have other experience besides business admin classes? Why wouldn’t you be studying music technology if that’s the core of what you want to do?</p>

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<p>I want to run my own label more then anything and i feel with a Majoring in MIS would benefit me for when i want to start my label. Im assuming it will help since it deals with programing/networking/databases.</p>

<p>Music wise Ive been taking Music theory/ basic musicianship as electives so i know to read music and im always on hip/hop sites reading about music or watching vids on production. Ive been doing that since i was in high school only problem is music equipment is not cheap so i haven’t been able to practice or make beats anymore. </p>

<p>Now im stuck between the two and cant find which i should choose because they both mean alot to me and the career i want to choose.</p>

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<p>I agree with the tone of snowflake’s last question. If you want to be in music technology, study music technology. Computer technology is part of it. </p>

<p>Here is a link to information about those programs.
[AES</a> Education](<a href=“http://www.aes.org/education/]AES”>Education & Career)</p>

<p>You may want to look at Full Sail University in Orlando. My nephew is there and he is immersed in the technology. Also, the time to finish the program there will be less than at the other schools.</p>

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<p>Full Sail is a for-profit program and not especially respected in the industry.</p>

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<p>We know a few students entering Umass Lowell for Music Tech:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.uml.edu/college/arts_sciences/music/Programs_of_Study/Undergraduate_Music_Programs/Sound_Recording_Technology_Program/srt.html[/url]”>http://www.uml.edu/college/arts_sciences/music/Programs_of_Study/Undergraduate_Music_Programs/Sound_Recording_Technology_Program/srt.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The school also has a strong CS program and will take some CC credits.</p>

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<p>LGSMom, my son is going to UMass Lowell for SRT. He said they don’t take transfers into the SRT program. Having said that you bring up a good point about CS. They do offer SRT as a minor for CS and EE majors.</p>

<p>Try this link:
[Bachelor</a> of Music: Sound Recording Technology : Music : UMass Lowell](<a href=“http://www.uml.edu/college/arts_sciences/Music/Programs/Undergraduate/SRT/srt.html]Bachelor”>http://www.uml.edu/college/arts_sciences/Music/Programs/Undergraduate/SRT/srt.html)</p>

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<p>OP, if you are talking about EE as in a ENG degree or CS as an ENG degree, I would be quite surprised if you find that available as a minor. You <em>could</em> DUAL degree, and some programs are designed SPECIFICALLY to combine music tech recording with engineering ee or cs (University of Michigan Performing Arts Tech Bsc./Eng degree at the School of Music, for example.)</p>

<p>However, you will be looking at a minimum I suspect of four full years to do so, because I don’t expect you’d receive much direct transfer or prereq from your existing program. Eg. they might give you departmental credit for your college credits, but at least at UMich I predict you’d be retaking the core, especially prereqs such as music theory, musicology. ENG (COE) might accept any object-oriented programming 2nd year college courses in place of the base EE eng class, but not likely the upper EECS class.</p>

<p>Best wishes in your search. As LGSMom noted, Lowell is geared for your approach, as is the Indianna/Jacobs RA Bsc. degree in combo with CS. I suspect you could also work out something at NYU’s Tisch Clive Baker recording arts program. But the thing is, those programs that emphasize the Recording Arts are usually either BFAs, which mean a very SPECIFIC set of courses, like specialized honors, or are BMUS or BSc that ALSO have a very tight set of grad requirements. </p>

<p>However, every single program I’ve mentioned requires an audition or portfolio that includes your own music audition, plus music you’ve produced. So you kind of need to be PRODUCING some music in one form or another to pursue music tech recording. Otherwise, you’re looking at straight sound engineering without the music element.</p>

<p>You have not mentioned actually playing instruments or programming/composing electronic or acoustic music to date. These programs require much more than “basic” musicianship. At the same time, they do not require specific western canon/classical ensemble training. Eg. half the accepted students in the RArts program at Jacobs have had prior symphony or wind ensemble experience, but half have only more contemporary backgrounds such as guitar, playing in rock bands, etc.</p>

<p>Without some idea of what instruments you play well enough to audition on, or what kind of level of composition you have worked at, I’m not even sure the programs I mentioned are a fit, because they’re very very tough admits.</p>

<p>Hope this has helped give you some ideas. If you let us know more about your history in music, we might be able to give you better and more specific or applicable advice.
Cheers.</p>

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<p>stradmom, one of the problems with Full Sail is that they allow anyone in. My nephew complains that a lot of kids who go there to be the next JayZ and that isn’t going to happen. One of the reasons I suggested this is because the OP will come out of college with a associates in business and might need to spend up to 4 more years in college to get his degree of choice. Full Sail can be completed more quickly. Also, in recording arts they place 71% of their students, so one can get a job. So I understand your concerns, but as I said my nephew is immersed in the technology and is happy with the education towards that end. He does miss the creative part that one would get from being in the SRT program at Lowell or a similar program at another university. All I was trying to do is present alternatives for the young man to consider. If the place was terrible, believe me, my sister would have told me so.</p>

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<p>“Also, in recording arts they place 71% of their students, so one can get a job.”</p>

<p>I’m sure your nephew is happy with his experience, but one must be VERY, VERY cautious about the placement stats of “for profit” schools. If a student gets a one day job or a brief internship, then they consider the student “placed”. The recording arts community is going through a staggering rough patch right now and I would question this figure even if it was coming from a conservatory.</p>

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<p>A valid point, musicamusica. I do think in the long run, it does come down to the individual. I know extremely intelligent bums from Ivy League schools and I know high school droputs who aren’t so inteelignet but have worked hard and made very successful lives.</p>

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<p>Thanks for all the replies but can someone answer this one question for me. With a degree in MIS with minor in CS. Will i be able to run my own record label through the internet? </p>

<p>Also Ive seen alot of music tech ppl minor in CS or engineering and i was wondering what are the difference between these two. As far as portfolio i have beats tons actually that i have produce back when i had some sort of equipment. The school i was thinking of majoring in for MRT is at Hampton university located in hampton,va.</p>

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<p>nms230, sure you can run your own label with a degree in MIS and a minor in CS. You can also do it without that. The main thing you need is a desire and hard work. I do think however, if you are really interested in music to go the music tech route.</p>

<p>If you go the MRT degree route, you work with the technology you need. EE will get you into the theory of electricity, signals, magnetism, and switches while CS will focus more on programming. I am not sure my answer is really pleasing when speaking to the difference in CS or EE as a minor, so I would suggest you go over the coursework and see which fits your intellectual curiosity. </p>

<p>One other question, are you African-American? Hampton is primarily an AA school.</p>

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<p>It’s confusing when you say you are looking at an MRT program yet you intend to be MIS with CS minor.</p>

<p>In any case, you don’t need a degree in anything to start your own company. You probably mean to ask which major/minor combo will provide you with better skills for creating an internet record label?</p>

<p>There is a big difference between CS and engineering. In CS you study computing hardware and software systems. Engineering is really applied physics for certain kinds of systems such as electrical, mechanical, or chemical systems.</p>

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<p>Yes im African American and yes i was asking will that major and minor combo allow me the skills for creating an Internet record label. At one point i was real passionate about doing the MRT route but ova the past few semesters. Ive changed my mind because i don’t think i could pass audition to be put into the program and i have no equipment to practice. </p>

<p>Also ive looking for job stability for when i get out of college because ive have a lot of people depending on me and family to help support. Ive done tons of research on the music industry read articles everything so i know how it works and how people will steal or not pay you for your material. As well as getting a break into the music isn’t easy neither</p>

<p>The reason for the MIS is to learn management skills and have a job to put money into my label and buy equipment</p>

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<p>nms230, job stability with an avocation can lead to a very satisfying life. I was just looking through the Hampton course catalog and I think I have a much better feel for what you are asking. First, it does appear that there are some MRT classes that are open to all students (MRT 225 specifically says open to all students). As for performance instruction I looked up PIA 103-104 and it say you would need permission of the department, so depending on your instrument of choice, there may be an opportunity for you to get some instruction in that direction too. Also, EGR 213 is in the MRT program and has no prerequisites, so that may be an options too.</p>

<p>So trying to wrap things up, I do see that your MIS courses (programming/networking/databases) will be helpful. I don’t really see the need for a minor in EE or CS. Also, if you do go to Hampton, take as many of the MRT classes that you can without being an MRT major. And if you can fit in a performance and theory class or two, it couldn’t hurt. Then when you have finished school, you will be in a position to get a good job, help care for your family, and pursue your dream.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

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<p>thanks for all replies. Instead of MIS should i take CIS and just take a couble of business classes because believe CIS will have more programming then MIS?</p>

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<p>I’m not sure any of us can give you the kind of specific advice you’re looking for, and perhaps you should look up the kind of Internet company you admire and ask them the questions. However, I will say that in terms of music creation for the game industry, ( I know, different from what you’re talking about) a composer who is skilled at c++ programming is worth his or her weight in gold. If you are skilled at programming, pursuing that avenue might position you to find a nice blend of skills. If you are asking if a MIS equips one to actually do the work of creating and managing a successful sie, my answer would be “only if you have the capital to hire talented web programmers to manage.” On the other hand, if you asked the best preparation to create the infrastructure yourself, I would likely suggest programming directly as more specifically useful. It really depends on your business plan.
Best wishes!</p>

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<p>Straight up, at this point I would be thinking more about how you are going to support yourself directly after graduating college, and how you are going to be able to save enough money to go into business yourself.</p>

<p>Any of those degree programs or combinations should give you that capablity, your headed in the right direction, but I feel like your goal is to graduate college and immedately become an entrapanure. Most likely, it’s not gonna happen. You have to have some seed money first, and a way to support yourself while growing your business (which can take years or even decades).</p>

<p>Some how I am just getting this perception that you are expecting some type of entrapanurial “automatic” sucess, and thats exceptionally unlikey to happen. As far as all that computer stuff, I love computers, I know a heck of a lot about computers, I make my living, in part, by selling my products on the internet, but there is very little that all those computer classes are going to teach you about developing and running your own business. </p>

<p>The same with the business classes. I have a BS in Business Adminstration, and while having an education in business has benefited me as a business manager, it in no way made me an entrapanure. I don’t think any college classes are going to automatically make you successful. I’ts not like one day you will have completed that degree program (any degree program) and suddenly a lightbulb will appear over year head and you will instantly know how to be a successfull entrapanure.</p>

<p>Honestly, if you are the entrapanurial type, if you had some startup capital, you could quit college right now and start your own internet record lable and do just as well with it as you could with a college degree. </p>

<p>If you don’t have a clue where to start (in creating your own business), then maybe you should be looking into college entrapanureships programs and not computer or business or music programs.</p>