My Chances?? Please??? :) I'll bet ever so grateful!!!

<p>I am applying to Cornell so I can frame my rejection letter. But after finding out what my stats that I would be sending them would be I wondered if I might actually have a chance.</p>

<p>GPA: 4.2
SATs:
Math: 690
CR: 750
Writing: 790</p>

<p>Past AP Tests Scores:
-AP US History: 5
-AP English: 5</p>

<p>Courses Currently Being Taken:
-Honors Creative Writing
-Honors Spanish 4
-AP Stat
-AP Government
-AP English 12 (Literature)
-AP Physics
-Service Learning 2 (Community Service Class)</p>

<p>Extra Curriculars (Just for Senior Year)
-Key Club (Officer)*
-Beta Club*
-Theatre (Musicals and plays)*
-Mentoring*
-Student Government Association*</p>

<p>*'s meant I had to apply/ audition/ or be invited to join due to academic success.</p>

<p>Awards Honors
-Honor Roll all 4 years
-2 Core Value Awards
-Elected in Key Club office and SGA
-Invited to apply to and accepted into Beta Club
-Invited and accepted into the National Society of Honors</p>

<p>Intended college: The College of Arts and Sciences
Intended major: English/ Creative Writing</p>

<p>I know I probably won't get in and I'm applying Early Decision to a in-state 3.0 school that I love, but hey if I have a chance I might want to hold off on the Early Decision until I hear back from Cornell.</p>

<p>If not it won't hurt my feelings. I'm just musing here. I've been intending to apply for the safisfaction of framing my rejection letter since I was in 9th grade.</p>

<p>Oh sorry I forgot to mention that I do 4 to 6 hours of Community Service a week. And there was something else…</p>

<p>Oh yeah! Top 5% of my class. I don’t know my exact rank but I think I’m in the top 10 or at least top 15.</p>

<p>Oh and also would it give me an edge if I sent in some of my writing? Or do they not care about that fluff? I’m asking b/c I’m also applying to NYU and over there it’d give me an edge because they look for talent and ability as part of their admissions, but I don’t know how Cornell’s admissions work.</p>

<p>And I don’t know my exact unweighted GPA but doing a hasty calculation I’d say anywhere fro a 3.7-3.9. Not entirely sure. Bu over on stats I saw a couple kids with unweighted GPAs in that range got in so…</p>

<p>Several things: Class rank matters, not GPA by itself, if your school reports class rank
Some of those kids you saw may have had hooks, or they may have not had hooks - in either case it doesn’t pertain to you.
I say you have an okay shot in ED considering your choice of major. Get your SAT scores a bit higher for CR/M for a better one - Cornell doesn’t look at writing. A&S is one of the more selective colleges in Cornell (referring to your post in the other thread) - that shouldn’t matter to you personally though.</p>

<p>Do you think i should include a sample of my writing? or should I depend on my essay to show any talent i might have?</p>

<p>Your stats are fine & in line with average admits. The one relative weakness that I see is that your EC’s do not exude excellence nor leadership.</p>

<p>Get your SAT up to 1500+ cr/m if possible. You have a solid shot getting in ED if so. Definitely send your wresting samples in- they can’t hurt. I agree, the glaring weakness I see is lack of leadership in clubs and achievements and honors. But definitely go for it.</p>

<p>Stats are average. EC’s are weak. Club-based EC’s are essentially the weakest EC’s you can have because it doesn’t take much to join a club or to become president of a club. Colleges want to see initiative, creativity, and leadership in the EC’s and I just don’t see it in yours. </p>

<p>And please don’t send in samples of your writing unless specifically requested. Don’t make the adcoms read more than they have to. It already annoys me when kids blatantly disregard word limits on college essays as if they’re special. You already have multiple opportunities to demonstrate your talent through your college essays. Any extra writing is just more work for the application reviewer. That’s just my own bias. Luckily for me on the med school adcom, the software automatically cuts off essays at a certain limit.</p>

<p>okay…I won’t send anything in. Ummm…can do much about the EC’s because that’s the highest of what my school offers. I guess I’ll still apply Early Decision for the 3.0 state school and if I don’t get in there, I’ll apply to Cornell. But whatever…thanks though</p>

<p>EC’s don’t have to be limited to school activities.</p>

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<p>That’s precisely my point. I want to see kids go beyond that’s offered to them on a platter.
For example, you could’ve entered some writing contests. Winning a couple of writing contests lets me know you have talent. Sending in your writing forces me to read it and I still have no idea if it’s good because I wasn’t a writing/English major. You could’ve tried to publish a book. I’ve seen high school kids do that. Yes, it’s difficult. But, this is Ivy League admissions. We’re looking for kids with initiative and talent. We’re not just looking for a kid who likes writing.</p>

<p>I still feel like you have a shot. Don’t give up hope! Remember, this is a game of chances.</p>

<p>okay that’s nice to know. I’ve never come across a writing contest other than on the creative writing sites I go on and if I had I would’ve entered. I just never thought that would be something important to colleges because I figured they wouldn’t care about stuff I’ve done outside of school unless it involved community service.</p>

<p>Thanks :slight_smile: I would apply ED Cornell but I don’t know if I can afford it.</p>

<p>Oh… RD may be tougher. If you ED, Cornell will meet your need - if it doesn’t, you can choose not to go to Cornell for financial reasons. They would be fine with that.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone who responded!!! I guess I’ll just stick with my state school. I’ve never had my heart set on the Ivy League and I probably won’t get in and if I do I probably can’t afford it. But thanks anyway :)</p>

<p>I think you would have a shot with ED! I got in with similar stats. </p>

<p>And you don’t have to worry about not being able to afford it. I applied ED even though I’m poor because if you end up not being able to afford it, you can always get out of the binding agreement.</p>

<p>well the problem is my parents make too much money to qualify for need based financial aid, I’m not smart enough to get merit based financial aid, but knowing I can get out of the agreement is helpful. I’ll sit down with my parents and discuss it.</p>

<p>… If you make too much money to qualify for need based aid then I highly doubt you will get any through the RD round even if you get in. This is a different situation altogether. If that’s the case, then I agree - don’t apply ED. If you make too much money to qualify for aid, they won’t give you much leeway in saying that you can’t pay for college.</p>