My Counselor/Vice-President/Head of Discipline Are Urging Me To Lie

Applying to College
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<p>To not put that I was suspended.</p>

<p>They claimed they [counselor on app] cannot say whether a student has ever had a discipline record.
HofD actually laughed and kept saying: "We can't tell them" as I was bawling.
Vice-P... kind of said in a mean way to my brother: "Have you ever seen your transcript? No suspensions, only absences and we cant distinguish between excused and unexcused [which are suspension days or no note from parent]."
Counselor was the one to explain to me how its illegal to check the box "yes", explain why, etc.</p>

<p>But I'm scared. What I should do?</p>

<p>The thing is: The situation is very complex and when you look at what I got suspended for alone: its bad... </p>

<p>Situation: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/high-school-life/1186359-teacher-vs-student-who-right.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/high-school-life/1186359-teacher-vs-student-who-right.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>)))))))))):</p>

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<p>Tell the truth, almost every college has a honor code and breaking it would result in severe disciplinary action. It’s hard but it will show how big of a person you are</p>

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<p>But its so bad. Its not like getting into a fight.</p>

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<p>maybe you could call the school, anonymously, and ask what they would advise you do</p>

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<p>Don’t put it down if your GC isn’t. They will have no way of knowing and the reason you were suspended is pretty suspect, anyway.</p>

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<p>It seems as though your school has gone out of its way to ensure that your “suspension” was not put on record in any way to hurt you. They do something similar at my school. In the end, it’s really your decision one whether or not you want to check that box.</p>

<p>You’re not really lying. In theory, you took X days of school off, which is what your school’s policy seems to be.</p>

<p>Good luck though, this is a tricky situation.</p>

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<p>I just read the “situation,” and it seems like this was a terrible thing to be involved in. I’m really sorry you had to go through that. If you feel you really need to check that box in order to alleviate your conscience, have a nice long discussion with the counselors and make sure they elaborate on the situation…</p>

<p>Still not 100% sure on how to deal with this though…</p>

<p>Also, your teacher is a complete fool.</p>

<p>Sorry I double-posted.</p>

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<p>Oh its fine and thank you! I’m going to talk more with my counselor on the subject. I most likely won’t as of now.</p>

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<p>Take your parents in with you when you meet the counselor, and have them help you sort this all out. You don’t have to do this on your own. It is possible that the school has decided to seal the records about this situation, in which case it is as though it had never happened.</p>

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<p>I’ve read your situation and while it is bad, lying always makes it worse.</p>

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<p>^Always? Not even to save your life? After a certain point, “lying” becomes morally ambiguous.</p>

<p>The original poster’s case is one of them.</p>

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<p>Are you going to be able to get to schools for personal interviews? The students here that applied with suspensions were required to meet with the head of academic integrity prior to admission. Of course they had suspensions for hacking into the school computer systems! So that is one thing to consider. Also, will your guidance counselor/VP write you recommendations and explain the situation to the schools to make you look good? Or would the letters side with the teacher again? If they write letters that continue to reinforce their support behind the teacher, that could be detrimental for you. </p>

<p>I am not saying lie, but you may want to get your ducks in a row, and get documented support behind you before you apply. And your essay is going to have to be about this horrible situation. </p>

<p>The more I am hearing about this situation, the more suspect I become about this teacher. Who does he know/why does he have so much control at that school?</p>

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<p>Interesting post, Hubman.</p>

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<p>The OP’s case isn’t one of them, lying on a college app is a dangerous game. Getting caught in a lie would be an automatic rejection, where admitting you did wrong would hurt your chances is some schools but would not kill them.</p>

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<p>^The OP isn’t really lying. He’s hiding the truth, not altering it.</p>

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<p>When it asks to report all disciplinary records and you hide one, it’s lying.</p>

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<p>They are reporting something such as, “He was out for x days due to disciplinary action.” That’s not lying; that’s leaving the situation ambiguous. What I’m saying is, they did not cross the line. </p>

<p>“Hiding” was the wrong word to use. Sorry.</p>

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<p>OH if that’s what they’re putting down that’s fine. I thought it just wasn’t going on at all.</p>

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<p>I’m in a similar boat. Don’t use common app. They have that question on there. I don’t think every college has that question.</p>