My dad says they don't count the essay on your SAT's (for athletic recruits)

<p>My brother is being recruited by several D-1A and AA schools. Some of these schools include University of Nevada (Reno), two Ivy Leagues (Colombia and Penn), Humboldt St., etc.</p>

<p>He has roughly a 1300 SAT, but my dad keeps on reporting his scores in emails as an 800 (he doesn't count the writing section). Almost immediately when he reports the SAT score they stop talking to my dad citing his scores are too low. Colombia laughed, UC Davis said no and Cal Poly's coaches tried everything they could to get him in, but the administration said they don't give scholarships to anyone less than a 1000 SAT. </p>

<p>Can anyone explain if my dad is right or did he (or whoever told him) severely mess up my brother's chance to getting into a good program.</p>

<p>Hi howcouldiforget,
Your dad (actually your brother) should simply report the score as XXX/1600 or
XXXX/2400, or write all three scores: CR XXX M XXX W XXX. Yes, we’re in the transition between 1600 and 2400, but it’s simple to communicate the scores.</p>

<p>You’re good to try and help them figure this out :)</p>

<p>I would second riverrunner’s advice … report xxx/1600 or xxx/2400 to be very clear and to remove the ambiguity (and I would pick whichever makes your brother look better). There is no univeral rule about including the SAT writing score … different schools have different preferences … so being clear about what you are reporting should help. </p>

<p>Now that I typed this I do not know if the NCAA clearing house requires the SAT writing score or not … and I would guess a lot of schools match the NCAA requirement … and I would also guess that top schools often have a higher requirement than the NCAA.</p>

<p>One last thought. When I was in HS I ran and was (in my words) lightly recruited … at first I got quite a few mailings and then limited interested from coaches. Later on I met a bunchof coaches and learned about the initial mailings … in my case, many recruiting coaches send letters to all non-senior all-state performers in the general area of the school (in my case Cornell sent letters to all all-state performers on the Middle Atlantic or North East) … and asked for info about both my sport and scholastic background. The initital contacts were typically made with NO knowledge of academic background … so my initial letters were essentially broad marketing efforts. Only after seeing the responses to the initial letters did things get more focussed. For your brother … if I read your post right he has a 800/1600 or a 1300/2400 SAT … unless he a national level athlete these scores are not likely to fly at IVY or NESCAC schools even as an athletic recruit.</p>

<p>NCAA only uses the old scale (critical reading and math) out of 1600. However…schools will want all three scores, whether or not you are a recruited athlete, so the total score, out of 2400, should be reported to the schools. </p>

<p>The NCAA sliding scale of gpa’s and SAT scores is only for NCAA eligibility and most schools do have a higher standard.</p>

<p>Cal Poly only uses the SAT-I math and critical reading scores, so reporting the 800 (that’s 800/1600, right?) was correct. UC Davis requires all 3 scores. Normally the scores would have been sent from the College Board, so the admissions office would have them and would look at the relevant ones.</p>

<p>If UCD and CP both said they tried but couldn’t admit your brother, they were most likely looking at the right scores. An 800 is quite low. Cal Poly will take the higher of the SAT or ACT scores, so your brother might try the ACT and see if he does better (too late for this year though, unfortunately).</p>

<p>You might try for higher football but lower academic schools if very talented - Fresno State etc.</p>