<p>One of my minority friend told me that last week she got a phone call from Harvard's Undergraduate Minority Recruitment Office... I call BS, there is no way Harvard admission officers got bored and started to calling random URM people. I have never read such a phone call on CC. What a liar...</p>
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I have no idea if your friend was called, but the office exists.</p>
<p>She’s not lying, those calls do exist. I got one last year and I’m going to be attending Harvard Class of 2014. =]</p>
<p>…How does Harvard even first pick the #s to call at the first place? This is ridiculous… Anyone besides anisem got a phone call last year?</p>
<p>It’s not random. Harvard buys lists of students who took the SAT and PSAT. Colleges can ask for the kind of students they want. They can ask for students within a certain range of scores, who live in certain zip codes, who are certain ethnicities/races, etc.</p>
<p>My younger S got a call from Harvard’s minority recruitment when he was a h.s. senior. He had high – 98th-99th percentile – SAT scores, but sub 3.0 unweighted gpa, so both S and I knew he had no chance of getting accepted so he didn’t apply.</p>
<p>a couple of my friends in my year got calls, but dont sweat it, it doesnt mean much; neither me or my friend who got in got calls but everyone who did get calls didnt get in, its more arbitrary than anything. whether you get in is basedo n your application, nt some random phone call that you may or may not get</p>
<p>but @op, reading your post again makes me think you should examine your attitude. admissions is intense, but no reason to get all feisty and cutthroat</p>
<p>Well, yohobroncos, you should know as well as anyone that being a URM gives you a heck-of-a-lot better chance to get in. So, the call DOES mean much. It means that you are a URM.</p>
<p>uh… and? who cares? (i do disagree that being a URM necessarily makes it easier to get in)</p>
<p>talk to me when getting a call from harvard in early july means that youll get in and when not getting a call means you wont. simple as that</p>
<p>Well said^</p>
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<p>Please elaborate.</p>
<p>Well, its not Harvard, (by any means), but I’m a minority and I got a call from Rutgers undergrad admissions the other day</p>
<p>“(i do disagree that being a URM necessarily makes it easier to get in)”</p>
<p>Someone is delusional…</p>
<p>@greedisgood, well i see that youre hoping to use urm status to get into your top schools, not the way id go about it but thats on you. (and by the way, youre delusional if you think that high income changes what race you are, maybe you disagree based on your posts, but thats also your prerogative). whatever, i asked really weird questions before my senior year too.</p>
<p>in any case, theres too many variables to definitively say that URMs have it easier, thats just my opinion. i know enough asians with <2000 who got into an HYP and enough URMs with >2200 who did not get into a HYP (3 and 2 respectively) to make my case for myself.</p>
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You are delusional. Enough said.</p>
<p>yohobroncos,</p>
<p>Your position is unsupported by any data and is contradicted by admissions officers. Are you familiar with Affirmative Action? Most top schools practice it.</p>
<p>i think i need to point out that none of you people have applied to college before… (it doesnt make much of a difference, but it does mean none of you guys would definitely know better than i would)</p>
<p>show me this data you speak of. and besides, my perspective of affirmative action isnt that it focuses solely on race, but the greater picture. if you look at how some schools address affirmative action (i know MIT has a page like this for sure) they all typically refer to a students background which may or may not include race, and i agree that THIS occurs and i support it because its good for diversifying a school.</p>
<p>but from my personal experience (and i suppose you guys will still disagree, but whatever), race alone does not make that big of a difference. if race did make that big of a difference, then an otherwise unhooked asian with <1900 would never get into harvard, and yet i know one personally. </p>
<p>in any case (advice, not particularly related to what i was just saying), if i were going through admissions, i would never ever let myself believe being a URM necessarily helps (i most certainly did not this past year and now that its over i obviously still dont), not because of how it might influence my morale while applying or whatever, but because it would make me prejudiced against URMs when i meet them in college, and i cringe when even considering what the consequences of that could be. iono what kind of schools you people go to, but my high school had quite a few URMs who get into top privates, and i heard more than a few snide remarks about the “reason” why they got in from people who were jealous or flat out ignorant. but never when someone ive known has gotten into a college have i thought that that individual did not deserve it, URM or not URM, and that proves my case to me.</p>
<p>^unhooked asian with <1900 are actually hooked asians your just don’t know it.</p>
<p>LOOK AT THE STATISTICS
Being a URM is about a 200pt SAT boost (slightly debatable, but around there).</p>
<p>show me some statistics. and statistics shouldnt be debatable.</p>
<p>(sucks for the URM with a 2320 i know who didnt get into any ivy… the equivalent of a 2520 SAT, highest in history! and he couldnt get into harvard or princeton or yale or anything…)</p>
<p>ive heard that. the idea in itself is just ridiculous</p>
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It’s really depressing that you consider statistically insignificant anecdotes relevant.</p>
<p>what you posted seems pretty in line with what i said, race might be a factor, but its definitely not make or break like some people here are making it out to seem.</p>
<p>and anecdotes help because what else are you gonna use? statistics that dont exist? (and isnt that why we have all those decisions threads? i know thats why i looked at them)</p>