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Colleges and Universities A-Z University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
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<p>Oh keepit, I posted that stat in SUPPORT of your argument about poverty in NC. My point in saying “Just saying” was I wasn’t taking a side but was letting the numbers say what they had to say without taking the usual method of trying to spin them. Geez.</p>

<p>tarheel151: The counties with the highest African American populations are also a large majority of the poorest counties in the state. It’s a fact, look it up. They’re also the counties with the largest amount of population LOSS in NC. (I will openly suggest white flight.) If you resent facts, then that’s your deal. Don’t get upset because someone pointed it out though.</p>

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<p>Sorry! I apologise for misunderstanding your post. These days I just assume that everyone who posts is disagreeing with me, in a more or less snarky way :p.</p>

<p>Sorry for jumping down your throat.</p>

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<p>I am not upset about anyone pointing it out. I am upset about people insinuating that all African Americans are poor and that all white people are rich, and I am upset that this conversation has descended into petty insults. This is just ridiculous. No wonder the OP is worried. I am now stepping of my podium and checking out of this conversation.</p>

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<p>You know, I think you might be. I am friends with a lot of the people who hang out in Central Carrboro, and as much as I wish it were different, they are mostly whiter than white.</p>

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<p>Ok, maybe getting back on topic would be a good thing to do.</p>

<p>Is there any overt racism or imposed segregation at UNC? No. In fact the exact opposite is the case. UNC made dubious national headlines when a window was broken when Tom Tancredo came to speak for a group called Youth for Western Civilization. That’s taking it a little to the extreme, but UNC is inclusive in the majority of cases. I’m probably going to regret mentioning that incident, but oh well.</p>

<p>Is there self-segregation at UNC? Yes, depending on what decisions, you, yourself, and nobody else makes. If you pledge one of the Divine Nine Fraternities or Sororities, you will probably hang out with more African-American people. If you want to hang out with just Indian people, you can do that. If you want to surround yourself with Latinos, you can do that. Or, you can do what most people do and find people that share similar interests that aren’t based on race. </p>

<p>tarheel151 said it best. If you have any doubts about what kind of place, come out and visit UNC for yourself, preferably during the spring or fall when the campus is totally alive with all of the students there.</p>

<p>As for my experience, I’m Asian and from Alabama, and UNC is definitely a lot more tolerant than Alabama.</p>

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<p>Preach tarheel151 and packerfan89! :D</p>

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<p><em>End scene</em> ; -D</p>

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<p>UNC is the least “southern” major public university located below the Mason Dixon line. All you have to do is spend any time at Bama, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, UGA and even UVA to an extent to see the difference.</p>

<p>Even Chapel Hill, while having a certain “Southern Charm” is nothing like Oxford, Athens, Knoxville, Tuscaloosa, or Columbia to be sure. You want to talk about self segregation and overt racism on and off campus…visit those schools and towns…at a few of them you’ll think it’s still sometime in the late fifties or early sixties…no enlightenment among many of the students and the only difference from then til now is that they now have integrated athletic teams.</p>

<p>My D just graduated from U South Carolina…trust me here…she has visited the other schools for football weekends and was amazed at how unenlightened and overtly racist they are…including many students at her own school.</p>

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<p>What I see is that the administration with their “Project Uplift” and “Summer Bridge” programs explicitly promotes segregation. The Summer Bridge program especially because it is predominantly AA and these ~50 kids spend 6 weeks with each other before the first semester even starts. So obviously, they are going to make their first friends from this group before the rest of the class even shows up.</p>

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<p>Programs like that exist at lots of schools, not just UNC. That’s affirmative action for you.</p>

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<p>Threads like this always annoy me because by asking the question itself there’s an insinuation that there is some school out there that doesn’t have self-segregation of some kind.</p>

<p>Yes, I’m sure if you walk into a classroom where people don’t already know each other (this isn’t high school) people might sit down beside someone who they identify themselves with. But I’m actually very tuned into things like this - I was a RA in a lab that focused on power, bias, and automatic processing the last year - and was pleasantly surprised to see that people tend to pick where to sit based off of what time they show up to class. Early birds go for the second row, the next wave in the back, it all fills up in the middle, and then the very first row is reserved for the latest students. I didn’t notice people clumping together.</p>

<p>Blah blah blah. Anyway, it hurts my feelings when people insinuate that the south is more racist than any other area of the country. That, my friend, is BS. You find pockets of intolerance anywhere you go. Maybe the worst ones are in the south, maybe they aren’t. And my point isn’t that the south doesn’t have racist areas, but it’s that everywhere Does. I get the same kind of anger when Europeans insist that America is more racist than whatever country they’re coming from. It might not be White on Black in Switzerland but I assure you, everywhere has problems.</p>

<p>All that said, if you want to have friends from all kinds of backgrounds, you can do that if you join student groups or meet everyone on your hall.</p>

<p>Swineflu, I’m sure you are wonderful, but people often don’t hang out in groups of people regardless of ethnicity. I understand what you’re saying - it was that way at my high school. But there were 45 people in my class. Oftentimes for that kind of behavior people will have had to go through experiences together where they’re working on some common goal. But in general, in cities or where ever, that doesn’t really happen. It’s not a matter of racism, it’s of comfort. I have only attended two schools - Guilford College and UNC (one very small, one medium sized) and despite Guilford being extremely liberal I’d say that segregation was a bigger issue there. I could write a book on it.</p>

<p>Anyway, if segregation is something you dislike then I’d say Carolina is a good school for you. It is not a school in a bubble - check out the Campus Y.</p>

<p>Though I live in Carrboro and really do love it it’s not SUPER special. If you want more weirdness (I think hippie is an antiquated term and ‘weird’ is a term both places embrace) in NC go to Asheville or go hang out at Guilford College. Carrboro is great but its younger generation is more hipster and WXYC-ish folk… Not that I’m complaining. I’m a WXYC-er. Hah. That said, it has flavor.</p>

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<p>I go to Duke and don’t really post on these forums much, but I’m from North Carolina and agree with all the UNCers here from NC that these preconceptions are wrong. Not only is North Carolina a progressive state–UNC is one of the most liberal colleges I’ve ever visited. Whether you support that or not, it does tend to mean that race relations are if anything better at UNC than at other places.</p>

<p>I have a ton of northerner friends at Duke and the ones who did have preconceptions about the south quickly found themselves reevaluating their views. NC is definitely one of the more progressive states in the region; racism exists here just like it does everywhere, though.</p>

<p>UNC has a ton of mixing between the races too, as does Duke. Trust me, I go to Duke and travel to UNC a lot with buddies to adventure on Franklin Street.</p>

<p>This post wasn’t too great, but I’m sleepy and it is summer (ha), but I hope you stop using UNC as a place to stigmatize using your preconceptions of th south. UNC is not the South, and the South is not racism.</p>

<p>Peace :)…and GO DUKE/ UNC when they’re not playing Duke!</p>