MY Georgetown/Columbia tranfer question for Junior year

<p>Hey all, I know that there are already tons of threads like this, but any input would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm applying to transfer my Junior year to Columbia and Georgetown (and others when I can think of them, but those are the big 2) from Seton Hall University in New Jersey.</p>

<p>ACT:29
HS GPA:3.6ish (it was a while ago)
Freshman year GPA: Fall: 3.75 Spring 3.68
This semester I think I can bring it up to a 3.78 OR A 3.83</p>

<p>In High school I was in the marching band and was an editor for my high school newspaper. I also worked 20-25 hours a week a McDonalds. Then that money was spent so that I could study abroad in Japan for a year. For 6 months between Japan and College I worked a full time job at a hardware store.
At my current school I am a member of quite a few clubs, I played intramural softball, and am a student phone councilor. In high school I volunteered 75 -100 hours for amnesty international. Here I've volunteered about 50-60 hours at an animal shelter. Does anybody have any idea of what my odds might be? I know my ACT isn't spectacular, and My GPA is't a 4.0, but any ideas would be great. thanks.</p>

<p>I don't think you have a shot at Columbia. I don't know enough about Georgetown to make an educated guess, though.</p>

<p>Transferring to an Ivy is a crapshoot for anyone. Georgetown is also a toughy. You have nothing to lose by trying though. If you really feel like you have to transfer, make sure you have safeties and such and don't rely on those two.</p>

<p>yeah, I know Columbia only has like an 8 % acceptance rate, I was just wondering if I would fall into that category. All I know is that on their website they say you should have a minimum 3.5 GPA, and that's pretty much it. I was hoping working and studying abroad on my own would give me something other applicants don't have. Plus I'm nost sure whether they would alot more space for Sophmore or Junior transfers.
And I have one more question, how important is the letter of recomendation? Because I have 2 options. One of my teachers (philosiphy) knows me pretty well (i've had him for 2 years) and he's a pretty col guy, but besides that nothing too unique. On the other hand one of my teachers is a former ambassador to quite a few countries, but he doesn't know me too particularly well, though I still have the rest of the semester with him and could hypothetically forge a better relationship. So which letter do you think would be better? One with a solid teacher-student relationship, but nothing special? Or a former ambassador that doesn't know too much about me (yet)? Or do letters of recomendation matter all that much? Thanks again!</p>

<p>columbia is a 2.5% accept rate last year (i transferred). most accepted kids have 3.85+. im not sure you got a shot here. </p>

<p>georgetown is easier, i got in there too, but your GPA should be 3.7+ to be competitive.</p>

<p>keep up the good work and good luck.</p>

<p>2.5% ?! Wow, their website said they admit fewer than 10%, but I didn't imagine it would be THAT low, bleh. Well columbia is more of a pipe dream, but since I'd be a Junior transfer does anybody know what they (and Georgetown) focus on and what is less important? (though I assume everything must serve some purpose otherwise they wouldn't ask for it)</p>

<p>There are a few things I could tell you about Georgetown, just spoke with a person who transfered there from Community College and didn't have good high school stats. Send me a Private Message and then we can talk in more detail. </p>

<p>Moltenlava</p>

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And I have one more question, how important is the letter of recomendation? Because I have 2 options. One of my teachers (philosiphy) knows me pretty well (i've had him for 2 years) and he's a pretty col guy, but besides that nothing too unique. On the other hand one of my teachers is a former ambassador to quite a few countries, but he doesn't know me too particularly well, though I still have the rest of the semester with him and could hypothetically forge a better relationship. So which letter do you think would be better? One with a solid teacher-student relationship, but nothing special? Or a former ambassador that doesn't know too much about me (yet)? Or do letters of recomendation matter all that much?

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<p>Yes, as a Jr transfer, what you've done in college, including LORs, will count more than what you did in HS. It doesn't matter so much WHO writes your LOR, but rather WHAT they say about you.</p>

<p>Ok, question, even though as a junior transfer my college info is more important than my High School info, do you think I should retake my ACT/SAT (I got a 1920)? Or will it matter that much in the grand scheme of things?</p>

<p>sat might be a factor, not a big one, but retaking 3+ years after most high schoolers take it will not be viewed well</p>

<p>you really seem to be far out of your league on both schools, in my opinion...you have a weak hs gpa, weak sat's, relatively weak college gpa thus far, and, from what i can tell, weak ec's...simply belonging to clubs is not going to cut it for georgetown...having leadership positions and achievements would be necessary to be a competitive applicant if all else was in place</p>

<p>i might lower your expectations a good deal...why do you want to transfer? a 3.68 last semester is solid, but is not going to propel you to a much better school than your at now...even if you did get into a better school, you have to honestly ask yourself if you could suceed in such an enviornment...</p>

<p>if you tell us what your looking for in a transfer college we could perhaps make some suggestions</p>