My Internal Strife.

College Search & Selection
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<p>A conflict we all are bound to face, or currently facing. A war in itself, a merciless and a bitter process.</p>

<p>College Admissions!</p>

<p>Onward with thy sword, and conquer the admissions office!</p>

<p>Lend me your ears! And help me slay the "manaical beast."</p>

<p>The Question:</p>

<ul>
<li>Which college should I consider EA, and top priority?</li>
</ul>

<p>Note: I am at a financial disadvantaged, and my GPA suffered tremendiously. Sure, I am to blame for the lack of work in my GPA. But, I have learned this lesson to late, for I am a Junior.</p>

<p>Have you heard of any financial programs for which I could apply? A program which loosens the virtual rope around my neck. A "rope" tightened by my low GPA.</p>

<p>Since you are all dying to know my GPA... 85 (unweighted) -- 88 (weighted)
I worked at a law firm for 3 years to help my mom. I participate in mock trials, and I have a strong talent, and passion for arguing and the Law.
I have other activities, such as Editor-in-Chief of the yearbook for next year, football team, tennis, swimming, key club, ARISTA society, and I recieved an award from frosh year competing in a science competition. Etc, etc. (A few more I cannot recall -- i have a list somewhere)</p>

<p>My SAT grades, however, are currently decent. As per my practice tests. 650V 650M ??W (<--low 600s) -- I will improve, of course.</p>

<p>Bearing all of this in mind, let's press on to the weaponary station!</p>

<p>Let us bear arms:
"You there, take the pen!"
"Young lad in the silver, Yea' you! Get the application, quickly boy!"
::Creek, creek:::</p>

<p>The timid boy returns, empty handed...
"WHAT!?"
"B-but, my Lord, I do-don't know what to cho-choo-AH- CHOO!"
"...."
The boy continues, "Ah-Chooose -- Choose!"
....</p>

<p>Can you help him?</p>

<p>A peek into the inventory:</p>

<p>-Boston University
-New York University*
-Northwestern University*
-Stanford (I wish, perhaps Stanford Law School... one day! If you have any information on either undergrad or law school... I would put it to good use).
-Georgetown University
-University of Chicago
-University of Penn. (Both, Upenn and cornell, were my aspirations since freshmen year -- Stanford mainly derives from its Law School)
-Cornell University
-Washington University (in District of Columbia)
- in addition to the aforementioned, recommendations would be enlightening.</p>

<p>Note: I am aware that the aforementioned schools, including NYU are quite costly. But bear in mind that I live in NY, and I have relatives residing in NYC, and Chicago. I live in New York. And me, and my mother saved up money for college. So for undergrad, I should be fine with a job, especially.</p>

<p>And now, what is the BATTLE plan?!</p>

<p>-Which college should I consider EA, and top priority?
-Have you heard of any financial programs -- that I could apply to, for College Admissions -- that place me in a different catagory. A catagory which calls for a lenent review, due to my disadvantage.</p>

<p>Thank you,</p>

<p>Kyle</p>

<p>P.S. The stared colleges are my favorites, come to think of it. I will not bother with star-ing stanford, unless you convince me otherwise. Is it really a long-shot?</p>

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<p>From the way you introduced yourself you might be hapyp at Chicago. :)</p>

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<p>I see your point! In fact I had University of Chicago, and Georgetown on my mind.</p>

<p>What do you think: Can I make it to either school, under EA?
Have you heard of any financial programs -- that I could apply to, for College Admissions -- that place me in a different catagory. A catagory which calls for a lenent review, due to my disadvantage.</p>

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<p>I hope you realize that some of those schools that you listed are ED. Early Decision greatly affects your chances of getting the most out of your financial aid package because you have to attend regardless if you think it is fair or not (save extraordinary circumstances). EA is more lenient because you are not obligated to attend so you could possibly negotiate aid once you are accepted to schools through Regular Decision.</p>

<p>However, ED is definitely more advantageous than EA when it comes to admissions. ED is usually an advantage because it increases the yield rate of the college (schools such as Northwestern and Princeton have a relatively high ED acceptance rate). EA is usually not an advantage, in fact it may be a disadvantage because usually the applicants with the best credentials apply EA.</p>

<p>But your case comes down to financial aid so I would not recommend to apply ED to any schools, but you must know that EA will not really gain you any admissions advantage.</p>

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<p>That was a typo. I am only considering Early Decision, not EA.</p>

<p>So, what do you think?</p>

<p>NOTICE:</p>

<p>On 19 June 2005, I will update this thread with my SAT II results and SAT I results.</p>

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<p>Georgetown EA is considerably more difficult than UChicago EA. Esp. for COL and SFS.</p>

<p>There is no Washington University in DC, but there is a George Washington University.</p>

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<p>Well if you're only considering ED then I know for sure that UChicago, Georgetown, and Stanford are EA. Northwestern, NYU, WashU, UPenn, and Cornell are ED. I'm not sure about Boston U. So you should be aware of the early admissions policies before making this kind of decision.</p>

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<p>WUSTL has ED-II, so that's also an option. </p>

<p>The way I see it, your best bet is to apply UChicago-Georgetown EA, and WUSTL ED-II.</p>

<p>If you meant GWU, then they also have ED-II.</p>

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<p>"The way I see it, your best bet is to apply UChicago-Georgetown EA, and WUSTL ED-II."</p>

<p>Well, what is the difference between "ED" and "EA."</p>

<p>Uchicago, northwestern, georgetown, and nyu are the most apealing to me.</p>

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<p>ED is binding; meaning, you have to go, if admitted. EA is non-binding, meaning, you don't have to go. EA = more financial options, but less of an advantage when applying. ED = fewer financial options, but more of an advantage when applying.</p>

<p>The schools that you have listed provide most of the financial aid needed for a student to survive, so don't worry about the Financial Aid ED factor. However, if you do apply ED, you're on their financial aid leash.</p>

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<p>I definitely want to apply to a college using my ED. I want to take advantage of it. But, I can't decide where.</p>

<p>"Uchicago, northwestern, georgetown, and nyu are the most apealing to me."</p>

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<p>Again, Northwestern and NYU are the only ED colleges out of those 4.</p>

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<p>All of the colleges I listed accept ED.</p>

<p>What is this claim based on?</p>

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<p>The fact that I applied to UChicago (later withdrew), Northwestern, Georgetown, and NYU, and was accepted to Georgetown under RD (after being deferred EA), and accepted to NYU RD.</p>

<p>Oh, and College Board, the individual school websites, and USNWR.</p>

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<p>So your saying ONLY (out of the four I listed) Northwestern, and NYU accept Early Decision?</p>

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<p>Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. (Happy 1100th post to me!) </p>

<p>You can apply to Georgetown and UChicago simultaneously. You cannot do Georgetown EA and ED simultaneously. Georgetown policy strictly prohibits it. It's MCEA, but not SCEA, but still prohibits ED applications.</p>

<p>Weird rules.</p>

<p>Georgetown admissions also varies between the different schools. Although not by much, some of the schools @ GU are harder than others.</p>

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<p>There was a misunderstanding.</p>

<p>I know you can not apply EA and ED simultaneously. It applies to most schools -- I believe. </p>

<p>"You can apply to Georgetown and UChicago simultaneously."</p>

<p>You can apply as ED, to both?!</p>

<p>My question was which school should I APPLY TO UNDER ED?</p>

<p>"Uchicago, northwestern, georgetown, and nyu are the most apealing to me." In other words, I am considering to apply under ED to one of them, and I need help with the decision.</p>

<p>But your assertion brings about an interest. Can you be more specific, give a hypothetical example.</p>

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<p>Okay, once again. Northwestern and NYU are the ONLY schools that have Early Decision. Georgetown and UChicago are MCEA schools -- that is, Multiple Choice Early Action -- meaning, you can apply to as MANY MCEA schools as you want, without restriction. That's why there are SO FEW of them.</p>

<p>Feel free to IM me if you want more specific examples. The posting restrictions on CC make it hard for me to give you an accurate answer. (I'm all over the board.)</p>

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<p>besides all that, i think one thing you may need to consider... with that gpa and SAT (you say your going to bring it up, but thats always much much easier said than done).. most of the schools you listed are reaches. Stanford, Penn, Cornell, Northwestern in particular. I would be looking mostly at BU and NYU. Apply to one of those top ones ED.. i would consider chicago mostly for you, just noticing how you phrase your thing, they are EA not ED.
Its not worth applying ED to schools that are a total longshot.</p>

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<p>Yeah, thank you for your input. NYU,, and Univ. of Chicago are two of my three top choices. </p>

<p>I've decided to do EA for Univ. of Chicago, and Georgetown (the third choice); As for New York University, I plan to apply under Regular Decision and hope for the best.</p>

<p>What are my chances for NYU, as a regular applicant?</p>