@BelknapPoint I meant that the due dates for Profile info is earlier than the date the college releases admission decisions in many cases.
Can you ask you guidance counselor to try talking to her? I don’t know what you would have to lose at this point.
Are you alone at home at any point and do you have a chance to look at her tax returns? There may be useful information there. (Look carefully at the way it was stacked, pic phone everything and put it back exactly as it was placed.)
Talk to your GC on Monday and lay things out, specifying they the information provided must remain confidential. Ask if the GC has advice or could call UnC.
Is there a lot of stuff that you can’t fill out? What’s your deadline?
Do you quality for any of the full ride (not just full tuition) merit scholarships listed here where the deadlines have not passed yet?
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21089443/#Comment_21089443
A full ride merit scholarship may be the only way to go to college without the unreliable cooperation of your parent(s), until you are seen as an independent student for college financial aid purposes (usually means something like age 24, military veteran, or married).
Very true, but not submitting a completed Profile should not have any impact on the release of an offer of admission.
I think that encouraging OP to go snooping around in her mother’s tax and financial information is a terrible idea. OP’s mother is perfectly within her rights to maintain her financial privacy, both in relation to college financial aid offices and her daughter. Any strain that exists now in the mother-daughter relationship will only get worse if and when mother finds out her daughter has violated her privacy and shared that information with others.
The best thing that OP can do is talk to a trusted adult (the suggested GC, for example) and ask for some help in communicating with mother and explaining how need-based financial aid works and what’s at stake.
Is your mom opposed to UNC Chapel Hill…or is she opposed to ALL colleges for you?
Where is the dad in this picture? Could he help?
Does UNC CH require the non-custodial parent Profile?
The priority deadline is March 1…a week away.
Are you seriously suggesting she steal her mother’s information and then forge her signature on the CSS when that information might not be complete (savings, investments, 401k are not on tax forms)?
Besides the obvious ethical problem of snooping through mom’s private papers (assuming she keeps them in good order, etc.), this would only solve the problem for one year. The CSS would have to be filed every year the student stays in school.
OP: Your mom holds a lot of cards as to whether and where you go to school. The only way around that is to win a full tuition merit scholarship. February of senior year is a very difficult time to start hunting for those. You need to work out something with your mom, go to a FAFSA only school, or go to a school that you can afford without your mom’s information (possibly a community college or perhaps an apprenticeship or career-training program that pays you while you learn).
Please talk to your guidance counselor to see if there are any options the others here are missing.
The student says she GOT the info to complete her FAFSA…which would,have been income,and tax info from 2016, and any bank account balances as of the date of filing her FAFSA.
My guess is the “assets” she needs are things like value of primary residence, mortgage on it…so equity can be calculated.
Any other “assets” should have been listed on the FAFSA, right?
OP do you have a family friend or someone from church that might be able to talk to your mom? If not try to get a teacher or your GC to talk to her.
She basically only needs value of house/equity and other possible assets. UNC has a simplified form.
Not suggesting she forge the signature, but if the mother doesn’t have to fill anything out and just had to sign at the bottom, it’d make things easier. The issue isn’t total refusal - the mother has given a number and information, but op doesn’t think it’s true and fears a fafsa verification. So, the snooping would be to verify the mother didn’t give a random number, and checking tax returns is a good way to do it.
An issue here is that mother is growing resistant to OP going to college.
When parents refuse for their kids to be educated (either because they fear they’ll get brainwashed or because they fear they’ll get too big for their breaches and will look down on them) the kid shouldn’t meekly obey and stay home. Sorry, it’s not the 19th century, even in North Carolina.
Op has been admitted to his/her state flagship, which meets need. S/he needs some basic information and needs to verify that the numbers provided by the mom are accurate in order to comply with the flagship’s request.
Probably full ride, not just full tuition, merit scholarship.
If the parent did not enter the income and tax info using the IRS DRT for the FAFSA, it is likely that a tax transcript will be required…especially since the OP says her EFC is $0.
Maybe the mom is objecting to that.
I thought UNC CH used the Profile @MYOS1634
If the parent did not enter the income and tax info using the IRS DRT for the FAFSA, it is likely that a tax transcript will be required…especially since the OP says her EFC is $0.
Maybe the mom is objecting to that.
I thought UNC CH used the Profile @MYOS1634
Yes they do use both but the profile can be customized.
Basically for EFC zero students they want to make sure it all fits (no inherited mansion, no thousands of shares in x or z…)
I think it’s related to Carolina Covenant, that allows instate lower income students to graduate debt free.
The title says she’s looking for help filing the CSS. It’s not just a simple verification of tax documents.
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So are you saying that the Profile for UNC CH is a shortened version of the Profile?
If so, what does it contain that is NOT on the FAFSA…which this student says she already completed.