<p>you like to stray from the point of this post dont you. Why dont you stop posting so we can get some productive thoughts expressed instead of your nonsensical droning.</p>
<p>Try going to a school where they don't weigh your rankings. I've taken 8 AP classes and I'm 31st in my class with a 3.89... our validictorian is going to be this dumb ass girl who audited her barely honors trig class because... oh no, she was going to get a B. I am so tired of our validictorian at our school being some kid that no one knows who had a 4.0 by taking the minimum 6 honors classes over 24 possible and having the rest be peer tutor or Power-walking classes.</p>
<p>Doogie, do you enjoy being rude? I simply meant to express that this conversation would be easier in a chatroom. Theres no reason to insult everyone all the time, it doesn't make people feel very much sympathy for you or your situation.</p>
<p>ya that sorta thing screws you out of scholarships the same way the competitiveness of my school screws me over. ranking sux.</p>
<p>i dont need sympathy. And i was agreeing with you econmajor, we have the same situation. The only person I had an attitude with was trader due to his ignorant and point straying responses.</p>
<p>Okay, you can't get in. Sucks for you. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.</p>
<p>This is true, it does suck. But the point of the post is to say that rank is an unfair criteria</p>
<p>Alright, so what are you going to do about it besides complain?</p>
<p>go look up wut the definition of rant is</p>
<p>doogie, I remember you saying you went to ---- in one of your posts (i think that was you..). your school definitely doesn't have an average SAT that high. I doubt greeley even has an avg SAT that high. as for 7-8% going to ivies, i don't think that's true at all, though I do know that you guys had a lot to cornell last year (and 2 harvard and 2 upenn, or something). anyway, i guess I do agree with another poster- i dont think that any program should have a cutoff like the program you mentioned. rank is unfair, but no rank would be even more unfair.</p>
<p>from the info that was released to me by my guidance counselor those were the numbers i got.</p>
<p>we def had more to penn and a few to columbia. Harvard and Yale both got a solid 5. I may be thinking of 2004's numbers, that was a strong year. We do send alot to cornell though. But i believe it was approx 7% into ivies from 2004</p>
<p>how about this:</p>
<p>If my school was on the 4.0 system, I would most likely be tied for first with a few other people, I have taken the max amount of AP/IB classes and I have a 4.0 UW GPA for 10th and 11th grade, yet I am ranked 38th of 449. Some people ahead of me are very good at finding the easiest weighted classes possible and getting very high grades, whereas I always took the hardest class that I could (even thought I took american lit instead of 11H english in 11th grade, it actually ended up being harder, in that most people did less work than me in honors and got the same average, around a 95, which for them was weighted up to a 105 and for me stayed at a 95.). Last year, I was in AP Chem and got 100 all 4 quarters, where as many people took honors chem and got 100 and this counted for the same thing, a 110. AB calc and BC calc count for the same weight even though BC is much harder. So pretty much I should be ranked at least in the top 10, but due to a terrible ranking system I am ranked 38th which probably destroyed my chances at the top Ivies, even though I beat 445 people in my grade on the SAT and I am one of 2 all county athletes in the top 40 (the other one is #40). So yea class rank is not very effective at all. I dont think I spelled any words wrong in this paragraph either.</p>
<p>lol, yup see rank sux.</p>
<p>Oh Dr. Doogie. You slay me, you really do. You love trash talking rank when it's soemthing you can change. No one said to you "Doogie, please take Multivariable Calculus and Advanced Quantum Mechanics(don't know what classes but just examples)." You could have taken easier classes to boost your rank. You decided not to. I don't know how close you are to top ten percent, but just taking one or two classes not at the highest may have been beneficial. I'm glad you are productive in ranting about how ranking is an unfair criterion, but you do nothing about it. You know what that reminds me of...someone who complains about the president and doesn't vote. Complain and rant all you want, but until you do something to better yourself or your chances, well then, you don't deserve to be in that med program.</p>
<p>trader, what do you think about my situation</p>
<p>again who the hell are you to make that statement. </p>
<p>I did damn well in all of my classes, and i chose those classes to challenge me. I just didnt get A+'s in those classes, and to me what i learned from them was more important then taking cake classes to be number 1 (which cant happen in my school anyway)</p>
<p>Thank you Doogie! You took the classes to learn! That's what this is all about. You got the education that some others may not have. Why worry that you can't get in the one program? What does it have that you can't find someplace else without the requirement? So you weren't the best of the best and the one program says "Doogie, we don't want you." Tell them "ok, I'll try somewhere else." or "well maybe if you considered my experience etc etc" Ranting is never productive!! I thinkl I finally got you somewhere with my "guidance" as you say.</p>
<p>ckmets: As you said with english, how do you know that honors chem wasn't harder? In my school though ap is 1.08 and honors is 1.06 but I know the honors calc teacher would give me a MUCH lower grade than the AP calc teacher because i've had them both. honors and AP are very, very similar in nature in mu opinion. If you are a good athlete, took challenging classes (like you said), and have good test scores plus a few other ECs, your chance at the ivies isn't killed. They look at everything. Even at rank 38, your in the top ten percent so theres hope for the ivies. Even if you don't make ivies, there are MANY other very good colleges. You taking hard classes as I said, also gives you the knowledge for college.</p>
<p>i know for a fact that honors chem was a joke at my school (and the year before I took regular chem when honors wasnt offered, so this actually penalized me for being a year advanced in science. I got to take honors physics, which was very easy, but I have the same average in AP physics (working much harder) than I did in honors. Honors chem and physics are like regular chem and physics but they get the same weight as AP.</p>
<p>what in the hell are you talking about trader...?</p>
<p>You misconstrue what people say so much its truly incredible. I would urge you to stop talking.</p>