<p>i really have this inkling that you haven't even tried to get into this program despite your close but no cigar rank. i also have an inkling that you dont really want to be in it that much.</p>
<p>here do this for me
post your ECs, exact rank xx/xxx, your gpa, your courses, and your service etc.</p>
<p>no, i dont need to prove anything to you nor is it necessary for you to know.</p>
<p>ok so then you are not qualified for their program because you do not have the skill nor do you have enough drive or will power</p>
<p>yup see once again, a representation of how class rank hurts people who are capable of being competitive candidates.</p>
<p>And trader, who do you think you are telling me im not qualified on this website? You have some nerve. What qualifications do you have and what grounds are you making this decision. You are probably a 15 yr old kid.</p>
<p>whered that last post go, i think he deleted it.</p>
<p>I'm a 16 year old "kid" :) but I am making this decision based on the fact that you think you're so great but you can't be that good if you didn't make top 10% regardless of competition and you won't post your other stats to allow me to form a poignant opinion otherwise. Obviously by you not trying harder to get in, you are admitting that you are not worthy of their program. So, in general, I think I am glad rank bit you in the butt because it weeded you (the kid who doesn't want to go the extra mile ) out of the process and left only those worthy of the program.</p>
<p>I would disagree with that. You can be a fantastic candidate, and not rank well (because of a particularly strong class). For example, my high school had over 8% going to Ivy leagues, and the average SAT score for the top decile was 1440. Thus, you could be a strong candidate and not make the top 10%. What I object to is the OPs attitude, and not his particular circumstance.</p>
<p>Well what I am saying is since he won't post his stats, I am left to assume he's not "all that"</p>
<p>you need to spend a day at the schools in my area, see where you fall with some of the students im up against. Idk how things are where you go to school. </p>
<p>Just to give you a little idea of the type of students at my school. The average SAT is a 1340 (690 Math) (650 Verbal). Last year we had approximately 50% of the school attend a tier 1 university and 7-8% attend an ivy league school.</p>
<p>In fact last year we had one individual given a full scholarship to TCNJ 7yr medical program. To give u an idea of his intelligence, a 100 on any test in any one of his AP classes would have brought down his GPA. </p>
<p>We have placed 1st in academic league of New York State each year for the past 5 years. We have been undefeated. </p>
<p>You need to face more competition, and you will when you reach college, but it seems that where you go now is a cake walk and you dont know wut real academic competition is all about.</p>
<p>If you still think its easy to be top 10% of a 300 student body class with competition like the student i told you about. You are living in a fantasy world.</p>
<p>see even econ majors school seems more top notch then mine, why dont you tell him that its easy to be top 10% at his school too.</p>
<p>I too graduated from a school with that sort of competition. I don't need to reiterate, because it is essentially what you said about your school. Its a public school that will be recognized by name by most adults, despite it not being on the East Coast. I ended up in a particularly strong class, which I considered a blessing (more intelligent people lead to stronger discussions, group projects where I could really learn from the others, and a generally intense environment). If I had graduated a year earlier or a year later, with my grades and SAT score, I would have been in the top 5%. As it stood, I was in the top 15%, leaving me ineligible for some of those scholarships that you referenced earlier. I wouldn't give up my experience for the higher ranking. I had an amazing experience, and ended up at a college for which I was well suited. My grades, scores, ECs, essay....it was enough to get me in (regardless of not qualifying for scholarships which were only open to top decile). Look at the flip side. You got to go through school with a lot of really bright, motivated students. I'm sure you benefitted greatly from that experience. Sure, it seems like a downside now, but there are thousands of kids that would give anything to have had the opprotunities you had available. Don't disregard that.</p>
<p>If your school is all you say it is, you should be happy to go there, and like everyone's saying GIVE IT A TRY ANYWAY!!! I'm applying to U of M. If you look at their statistics - 100% of their students are in the top 50% of their class. I'm not, it didn't stop me from applying. If you're a good enough student, they will let you in. If, like you say, you have higher qualifications than some of the other top 10% kids they let in, then they should let you in. Make sure you're actually talking to the person in charge of admissions, like someone else mentioned, it depends who you talked to. Almost every single time I've talked to the person who happened to pick up the phone at U of M, they've given me (more or less) inaccurate info. Out of curiosity, can you please tell me what program you're trying to get into?</p>
<p>Oh without a doubt, i agree with every last word you said. But what I am saying is, and I know you can agree because i too am in the top 15 % which is still the second decile, but those scholarships are annoying because they really block alot of highly qualified applicants from competitive schools like the ones we both attended.</p>
<p>"In fact last year we had one individual given a full scholarship to TCNJ 7yr medical program. To give u an idea of his intelligence, a 100 on any test in any one of his AP classes would have brought down his GPA."</p>
<p>That just tells me...grade inflation and that you guys get too much extra credit that maybe you should take advantage of. A 100 in AP can not bring a grade down because I've had over 100 averages in classes, but it is only on the report card as 100. </p>
<p>My school is about averavge.
My school may not be that competitive in terms of SAT and not as many students go to such universities and we don't even participate in a New Jersey academic league (if they even have one)but you're missing my main idea. If you're so great, you can probably get an exception. It bugs me that you complain but don't even try to speak with someone higher up or try to get your guidance counselor or something to call on your behalf. I know you're mad at the competition but get over it and move on. Spend more of your time making that project better and less time on here if you really want in.</p>
<p>not report card...GPA, you need to work on that reading comp.</p>
<p>And again, im not mad at the competition as econ said it has offered me many advanatages that others dont have. You continue to miss the point and its almost pointless to even continue talking to you.</p>
<p>This thread sucks.</p>
<p>thank you for your oh so productive opinion shaina</p>
<p>GPA is determined by the grades you get on your report card. It can't go over 100 unless weighted so a 100 in AP is weighted so there's no way it would hurt. i gotta go. ill be back to arge this later tonight.</p>
<p>there are times I think a CC chatroom would be nice</p>