My System/View on Undergraduate Business Programs & Other Schools

College Majors Business Major
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<p>Hi all, I have been browsing through the previous posts and I find it interesting to see how everyone ranks the business programs regarding eduction/value/prestige/recruiting/etc...the overall package. However, when I'm trying to decipher the strength of a program, I find these rankings of business programs sort of inadequate because in real life, business majors are competing not only with other business majors, but with everyone from every elite school. Thus, I devised this point system. </p>

<p>10 - UPENN Wharton.</p>

<p>9.5 - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT Sloan.</p>

<p>9 - the rest of the ivies, UChicago, Duke, Northwestern, Michigan, Berkeley Haas, NYU Stern, CMU Tepper, UVa McIntire.</p>

<p>8.5 - UCLA, Georgetown, IndianaU Kelley, UTexas McCombs, USC Marshall, UNC Kennan Flagler...etc. </p>

<p>8 - Penn State Smeal, Michigan State University Broad, UMaryland Smith, BC Carroll...etc. </p>

<p>I'm sure I'm omitting many worthy schools that fit somewhere in above. My point is that...instead of ranking a specific school...which is impossible to do...grouping them would serve much better...with the rest of the schools without undergraduate business to see where the school's program (business) truly stands. </p>

<p>Also, a particular strength/honors/concentration of a program or school would alter the score, although not significantly. Example: Chicago Econ and Stern Finance, arguably the strongest in the world in their respective concentrations, would give the school a 9.3 or 9.4...pushing closer to the "9.5" group. The same concept could be applied to McCombs honors program, pushing the school closer to the "9" group. See the point? I'm sure every school/program has at least one particular strength/concentration/honors that would propell the program to a notch above. </p>

<p>I understand that this system is far from fullproof. Feel free to comment on this system.</p>

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<p>good thinking.</p>

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<p>Chicago should be in the 9.5 group. It is VERY strongly recruited (many of the top HFs, trading firms and all the major banks recruit there).</p>

<p>I would put Tepper a notch below at 8.5(there were recruiting info published and it seemed the number getting into top positions was not as high as the other ones in that tier). I would but Gtown at 9.</p>

<p>Otherwise it looks good.</p>

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<p>MIT down to 9 is my suggestion.</p>

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<p>MIT attracts a lot of the quant HFs and trading firms as well as consulting groups. Major banks also recruit there. It could really go either way depending on interests but I would say its much closer to 9.5 than to 9.</p>

<p>Here is the career fair list: <a href="http://career-fair.mit.edu/employer/all_registered.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://career-fair.mit.edu/employer/all_registered.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>A number of banks that do recruit there aren't listed. However, notice the number of top HFs and trading firms.</p>

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<p>Pretty good system. I would put McCombs in the 9 bracket because it is ranked pretty high on many of the business majors without regarding the honors program, but then again that could be my personal bias.</p>

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<p>The goal of the list is not to follow traditional ranking systems but to look at the main goal of business programs which is to get top recruitment. The recruitment at a place like Dartmouth is better than at McCombs.</p>

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<p>Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford</p>

<p>They don't have undergrad business programs.</p>

<p>Duke, Northwestern,</p>

<p>Neither do they.</p>

<p>And of course, UCLA and Chicago don't have undergraduate business either.</p>

<p>I think Stern should be moved up to 9.5.</p>

<p>the rest of the ivies-The only ivies that have formal business programs are Penn (Wharton) and Cornell (AEM).</p>

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<p>I think OP is including those ivies' econ program</p>

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<p>futurenyustudent,</p>

<p>i think the whole point of radix01's post is to compare the overall strength of colleges with an undergrad business major with colleges that don't have undergrad business majors. </p>

<p>radix01,</p>

<p>i find your results to be very true to real life and is often overlooked. many non-business majors (such as an ivy econ major) regularly compete for jobs with the students from wharton, sloan, stern, haas, etc. i think your results would be even better if you included the non-business or econ majors of colleges that do have business schools... for example, how does a Penn graduate compare with a Wharton graduate. thanks for a good post.</p>

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<p>Emory (Goizueta) and WashU (Olin)?</p>

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<p>bumping because i think this could be a great/informative thread.</p>

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<p>I agree with kfc4u that this system could be improved by mentioning non-business or econ majors at colleges that also have business programs. I think it would take more research to come up with a more complete list. Although I tried to incorporate many aspects, the main objective, the most important goal, of this list is to rate the top business recruitment, as mahras2 mentioned. </p>

<p>On the side note, Emory and WashU business programs would belong in 8.5 group.</p>

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<p>how is AEM? does anyone know the recruitment of it?</p>

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<p>I think the rankings are in generally good order.</p>

<p>I agree with Mahran2 that U Chicago would be in 9.5 instead, and that CMU Tepper would be slightly lower.
However I think there is a pretty large divide between 8 and 8.5 quality...</p>

<p>While it is fine now, if this list were to be expanded, there would be quite a few schools that would fall within a 8.75 catagory. I think that you should probably bump the current 8 down to 7.5 at least and leave 8 for schools that are still noticibly stronger than what you currently have at 8.</p>

<p>A composite like this with overall universities and liberal arts colleges (if expanded) would probably be a pretty good resource for college-bound seniors with questions.</p>

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<p>
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how is AEM? does anyone know the recruitment of it?

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Hopefully this thread will remain relatively devoted to this ranking thing, but:</p>

<p>Cornell is with "rest of the Ivys." Cornell. Not just AEM.
With its very strong alumni network, Cornell is very good at placing students well-off in companies, and recruiting is very strong (despite the academic strength of its programs, economics and business, being arguably weaker than some in the tier, though there is no real metric for this, and claims thus cannot be justified or disproved).</p>