national honor society? sounds...dumb

<p>well, apparently i got a letter in homeroom saying that i was <em>invited</em> to this national honor society meeting...and if i couldn't make it and wanted to join, i should tell the adviser beforehand. so i was like "it sounds stupid" and decided not to join so I didn't..but then i kept getting warning notices saying things like "you were <em>supposed</em> to talk to the teacher since you didn't come to the meeting...that's a very irresponsible thing for you to do and responsibility is a key part of the NHS" and stuff like "come to my office IMMEDIATELY."</p>

<p>i was like 0.o um...they totally overestimate the "honor" that comes with being part of this...and having an absolute minimum GPA qualification -_-</p>

<p>so...what is the national honor society good for really? it seemed they invited the whole junior class...</p>

<p>It's usually worth it, but it's not moreso than most other clubs. At most schools [idk if urs is an exception], it is at least mildly selective so it clears out the idiot population of clubs, thus allowing the club elections to be based a little bit more on brains to give people who can't convince a horde of morons to vote for them a chance.</p>

<p>Ok well. I didn't join. I won't join either. </p>

<p>It's this simple:</p>

<p>If you apply to a top school (i.e. CalTech), they will see your GPA and your transcript that you are an excellent student. All colleges know that NHS doesn't do anything. It shows no passion. That said, Kid A applies to CalTech and academically, he is identical to Kid B who also applied to Caltech. They both have 1 EC each. Kid A does NHS. Kid B does robotics. </p>

<p>Who would you pick? They are both excellent students (duh, they are applying to CalTech) so they both could have been in NHS. Now, NHS shows no passion for anything. Also, NHS is comprised of every "good" student in the country. That's alot of students. At least 30 per each urban school. </p>

<p>So who does the college pick? Evidently, Kid B who went for robotics exhibits more passion and leadership. He would contribute more to CalTech than the NHS kid who did NHS like the many other thousands who do. </p>

<p>But if you are applying to your local community college, NHS would look very impressive. </p>

<p>So then again, it depends on where you are going.</p>

<p>It depends. The National Honor Society at my school does a lot of community service- if yours is similar, I'd say join it, but if they don't really do much, don't bother.</p>

<p>At the very least, though, go talk to whoever the adviser is, even if you're not interested. It's never a good idea to get a teacher ****ed off at you, especially over a club you don't even care about.</p>

<p>well it depends on how active the NHS is at your school. In my school, NHS is responsible for all of the tutoring in the school so people who were in NHS were very busy. at one point i was tutoring 6 people, sometimes two people a day. and i wasn't the only one. i made sure to explain this in my application though. so for my classmates and me NHS is not dumb at all lol.</p>

<p>Lol, i dont think it's active at all. Basically what you do is 1) have elections, and get like 10 board members. 2) pay them some ridiculous amount like $40 for "fees" and 3) don't do anything else. Besides sit around and talk about how much "honor" it is to be in this thing.</p>

<p>It's a waste of time. It won't affect your chances at all. Stay away from it.</p>

<p>(This is coming from a member who applied, got in, and subsequently refuses to attend any meetings.)</p>

<p>Apparently those who joined have a "stamp" on their transcript saying that they're part of this...would it be weird if I didn't HAVE that stamp?</p>

<p>It's not that great, but it really depends on how rigorous the program is in the school. There's no standard across the nation so some programs may be very lax while others on point.</p>

<p>NHS is like, nothing. Many people don't even bother to put it on their transcripts, owing to the fact that there are many things more prestigious than that.</p>

<p>NHS Member = School's servent</p>

<p>It all depends on the individual school. </p>

<p>At my son's private school, NHS is extremely selective, and membership requires a significant number of community service hours. As at Sgt Pepper's school, NHS students provide tutoring services before and after school; they also lead campus tours, orientation for incoming freshmen, etc. My son wrote about his NHS activities for one of his college essays. And he got into some very selective colleges.</p>

<p>So I wouldn't automatically dismiss NHS -- and I don't think any college would either. You don't know that Cal Tech would necessarily pick the robotics enthusiast over the NHS officer who is passionate about that activity. Quite frankly, Cal Tech probably has a bazillion applicants with robotics on their resume, so the NHS student might actually stand out more. LOL!</p>

<p>NHS is only good if you do lots of comm service/get VP or Pres.</p>

<p>NHS at my school is ridiculous. It requires 100 community service hours, 50 leadership hours (all verified w/ paperwork), and this whole merit evaluation thing just to get in. Then when they get in, they're required to contribute a certain amount of hours every few months. As a result, people make a bigger deal out of it than it really is, and do community service for the sake of being in NHS. Everyone is concerned with the NUMBER of hours they have.</p>

<p>^that totally...defeats the purpose of everything</p>

<p>It does . . . there's a lot more rules and regulations than what I've listed above, also, things like there should be one activity that is more than 20 hours but not more than 50 or something like that, and the differentiation between "service" and "leadership" hours. </p>

<p>That's why I didn't join NHS. It pretty much has you on a leash and makes community service much more of an onus (At my school, anyway). Unfortunately, with a student body of overachievers and maybe about 25% Asians a big part of the student body is in NHS, and once they're in, assume that it is a huge step towards their dream school. It's only through CC that I learned that NHS is really not as important. It's actually a little funny, actually. A lot of people say to me "<em>gasp</em> how could you not join NHS??!!"</p>

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A lot of people say to me "<em>gasp</em> how could you not join NHS??!!"

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just like that adviser person who's basically like "You should be HONORED to be invited to NHS."</p>

<p>i've always known these things were BS. even before I joined CC :)</p>

<p>^ Their not BS, their just not as prestigious as they pretend they are.</p>

<p>There are just plenty of better things people can do besides losing time to NHS. Like getting into RSI or (in my case) getting a Private Pilot's License.</p>

<p>My school's NHS is strict as heck - GPA requirment obviously of an A avg, but then they evaluate u based on teacher recommendations and ur work in extracurricular groups, and have strict community service requirments, and an essay, oh god! About 10% acceptance rate I think for mine.</p>

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Like getting into RSI or (in my case) getting a Private Pilot's License.

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wow. both of them are BEAST! piloting sounds...amazing :O</p>

<p>I joined mine because we do service projects sometimes.</p>