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<p>I’m curious to know…</p>
<li><p>what do students from schools that are affected feel about this issue? </p></li>
<li><p>what do american indian students out there (from any school) feel about this?</p></li>
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<p>i fit into neither category, but I think it's a bit of an out-dated thing. I mean what if a mascot was a white american male. wouldn't that seem kind of weird? I'm not talking like racisim, or anything, just I find it a bit primitive</p>
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I mean what if a mascot was a white american male.
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Anchormen
Barons
Black Knights
Blue Boys
Blue Knights
Buccaneers
Cadets
Cavaliers
Cowboys
Crusaders
Dons
Dutchmen
Flying Dutchmen
Generals
Gothic Knights
Green Knights
Highlanders
Irish
Jimmies
Johnnies
Keydets
Knights
Leathernecks
Lord Jeffs
Lords
Lumberjacks
Matadors
Midshipmen
Minutemen
Monks
Mounties
Northmen
Penmen
Pirates
Preachers
Purple Knights
Redmen
Rivermen
Saints
Scarlet Knights
Shoremen
Statesmen
Swordsmen
Wonder Boys
Yeomen</p>
<p>My favorite is the Wonder Boys at Arkansas Tech.</p>
<p>I probably wouldn't like it much either if I were a Native American. But since I'm not, it's hard for me to relate to their anger over it. It's unfortunate, but the truth.</p>
<p>No, I meant like just an average joe. Not in any uniform. Just some beer-guzzling guy sitting on his couch watching tv. In other words, your dad or some other sports fanatic.</p>
<p>duke blue devils...i think they should be banned b/c i believe it to be satanic...</p>
<p>Witches attending Meredith college should be able to change the mascot from Angles to Devils.</p>
<p>Vegetarians attending Howard University should be able to change the mascot from Bison to Tofu. Same for any other animal exploiting college.</p>
<p>People with fear of heights attending University of Daytona should be able to change the mascot from the Flyers to the Walkers.</p>
<p>Women attending the University of South Carolina should be able to change the mascot from Gamecocks to ... well, you can figure it out.</p>
<p>Pacifists attending Washington and Lee University should be able to change the mascot from Generals to Pansies.</p>
<p>Little People attending Keystone College should be able to change the mascot from the Giants to the Runts.</p>
<p>Exhibitionists attending Kent State University should be able to change the mascot from the Golden Flashes to the Big Golden Flashes.</p>
<p>Students with pacemakers attending Marywood College should be able to change the mascot from Pacers to the Clears.</p>
<p>Californians attending George Mason University should be able to change the mascot from the Patriots to the Communists.</p>
<p>Athiests attending the College of Saint Francis should be able to change the mascot from the Saints to the Pagans.</p>
<p>Procrastinators attending the University of Oklahoma should be able to change the mascot from the Sooners to the Laters.</p>
<p>Catholics attending the University of Southern California should be able to change the mascot from the Trojans to the Barebacks.</p>
<p>Trolls attending Trinity Christian College should be able to change the mascot from the Trolls to the We Ain't F***** Trolls.</p>
<p>Poor students attending Georgia Tech should be able to change the mascot from Yellow Jackets to the Casual Fridays.</p>
<p>Too bad a lot of the schools have the support of the Indian tribes where they draw their names.</p>
<p>the NCAA should worry about getting football players who can read after 4 years instead of "offensive nicknames".</p>
<p>Fighting Illini is offensive but not Fighting Irish??? Yea that makes perfect sense. Not.</p>
<p>Google the "fighting whities"... some wanted a high school to change their name to that b/c their Indian name was "offensive"</p>
<p>W&M used to be the Indians, and now we're the Tribe. Maybe we should change to the "Colonists". I mean, that wouldn't be offensive to native americans right? Instead of naming our sports teams after you, we'll name them after the people who KILLED you!</p>
<p>Just so you all know, the Illini tribe has commended and encouraged the University of Illinois using the term, "Fighting Illini" so I do not believe it is offensive.</p>
<p>what about notre dame's notorious "fighting irish!"? conan o' brien should be the first to take a stand at this injustice.</p>
<p>I'm tired of our obsession with political correctness.</p>
<p>I don't think its appropriate for an ethnic group to be a mascot, especially when that school isn't a representative of that ethnic group. What if we had the Stanford Jews or the Miami Italians or the Princeton Blacks?</p>
<p>I heard that during the 1970's some feminists, as a joke, suggested changing the "sexist" name of Drake University to Duck University.</p>
<p>miami italians has a nice ring to it.</p>
<p>Razorsharp, nice one (#7).
I went to a high school where the sports teams were "Quakers." I was raised a Quaker. Never occurred to me to be offended.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is a classic example of mascot PC gone too far. Originally founded as a school to educate American Indians, they were the Dartmouth Indians for years and years. With a very respectful and noble-looking Indian icon, I might add, no caricature. Now they are just "the Green."</p>
<p>moattomoat: I would rather put it the other way around. Stanford Jews or Princeton Blacks could sound far more offensive that, for instance,the BYU Mormons or the Loyola Jesuits or Howard Blacks, because there would a good justified reason for these names and because it wouldn't sound like making fun of someone else but rather a local sense of humor, don't you think so?</p>
<p>I agree with you atu23. I'm Jewish and if I was ever in a group in High School that needed to be named and was all Jews we would sometimes jokingly pick a name like that. But it wouldn't be appropriate for an insitution that does not represent the group to pick a mascot that was a representative of that ethnicity.</p>
<p>and also "fighting illini" is better than "illini" alone, because one term suggests using an ethic group like a mascot, the other one suggests a particular attitude or activity. Is not the same to be the "firemen" or the "warriors" than just to be the "caucasians"</p>
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Anchormen
Barons
Black Knights
Blue Boys
Blue Knights
Buccaneers
Cadets
Cavaliers
Cowboys
Crusaders
Dons
Dutchmen
Flying Dutchmen
Generals
Gothic Knights
Green Knights
Highlanders
Irish
Jimmies
Johnnies
Keydets
Knights
Leathernecks
Lord Jeffs
Lords
Lumberjacks
Matadors
Midshipmen
Minutemen
Monks
Mounties
Northmen
Penmen
Pirates
Preachers
Purple Knights
Redmen
Rivermen
Saints
Scarlet Knights
Shoremen
Statesmen
Swordsmen
Wonder Boys
Yeomen
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<p>Why is there not more discussion about this list? I find it fascinating, actually. We spend so much time trying to wipe out all references to minority groups, when look at all the references made to white males? </p>
<p>Frustration.</p>
<p>Because none of the mascots on that list are "The White Males," they simply HAPPEN TO BE white males. If, say, the Wonder Boys also were black, no one would complain. Or if the Preachers were Asian, or the Cowboys Mexican, or whatever. If there was a school whose mascot was "The White Anglo Saxon Protestants" (GO WASPS!) then that would be a different story.</p>