Need Help Looking for a Inexpensive Christian College

<p>LOL. WP!</p>

<p>Totally off topic, but is there some place that I can read about the way MIT handles endowments and investments? I understand they have managed their money well, but i haven’t really read into it. (But since my son seems bent on doing an internship at a financial firm this summer, perhaps I’ll have this kind of understanding within the family)</p>

<p>Liberty-lots of aid $ for national merit, I think even commended scholars
Azusa-Trustee scholarship is full tuition
Whitworth University- good aid based on grades, higher amount than many others</p>

<p>Actually Lynchburg is home to two major international corporations heavily involved in nuclear power and other nuclear and alt energy businesses. One is AREVA and the other is Babcock and Wilcox which was founded in L and does lots of military work. Both are multi multi billion companies and they helped push LU into offering engineering programs. Besides nuclear they are moving into alt power and package nuke power units. B&W built and is testing their nuke in a box in L right now in a new facility built for that purpose.
For a small southern city this is highly unusual. It also is a regional medical hub employing many LU nursing and med tech grads. Genworth Financial also has major operations and hires many LU business grads. Do LU grads compete for top Big 4 accting jobs-probably not so much. But there are many 1000’s of accting jobs outside the Big 4. </p>

<p>[B&W&lt;/a&gt; contract marks progress in mPower reactor development - Work It, Lynchburg: News](<a href=“http://www.newsadvance.com/work_it_lynchburg/news/article_88f36108-7c0f-11e2-b566-001a4bcf6878.html]B&W”>http://www.newsadvance.com/work_it_lynchburg/news/article_88f36108-7c0f-11e2-b566-001a4bcf6878.html)</p>

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<p>I think everyone in L was concerned about the future of LU when JFSr died. However I also think it worked out better than anyone could have hoped. His death enabled the school to pay of all it the debt it had at the time (life insurance) and start fresh with $$ in the bank. It also reduced some of the more controversial outbursts JF was well known for and the school became far more business-like JFJr was trained in law and business–not the church and it shows all the time. One of his proudest accomplishments was building the very successful shopping centers near LU on former LU land.</p>

<p>Certainly they face risks but so far they have proven most of the many doubters wrong and prospered without completely selling out. I’d say the odds remain in their favor.</p>

<p>Let’s hope. It’ll not be pretty when hope fails. </p>

<p>As for the “odds”, the “experts” said same of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. The major diff is that Uncle Sam won’t participate in any bailout for Liberty or its kind. The Christian thing, you know. Sadly. </p>

<p>The only answer to this one is some time. It’s an intriguing financial model for sure. Keep watching. Carefully.</p>

<p>Can we assume that the shopping center is susceptible to UBIT?</p>

<p>So you’re saying that Liberty has run up over $100 million in debt since the realization of Jerry Srs. life insurance? </p>

<p>What about the law school? Is it available online, with no “labs?” </p>

<p>Not to quibble, and I’m glad Lynchville has some major employers. Do you know how much Babcock and Areva GAVE to constuct the engineering school? With neither being HQed there, and having worked with multi-national corps like these with literally dozens of divisions and locations all over the planet, it can be mighty challenging to obtain any significant funding for one regional site. Genworth’s Richmond, not Lynchburg, right? It is tempting to gloss over realities and colleges and universities are expert at that game. </p>

<p>Again, I’d not bet a whole bunch on the plan and hope it works out.</p>

<p>B&W was founded and headquarted in L until recently when it moved some admin staff to Charlotte but that was much like the move of Boeing HQ from Seattle to Chicago. The heart is still in L. Fleet is local. Genworth is the head office for the group there (nursing home insurance) and does more locally than anyone else. AREVA has its North American HQ in L. </p>

<p>[Virginia</a> Business - News: Expansion of Areva and Babcock & Wilcox expected to attract skilled workers to Lynchburg](<a href=“http://www.virginiabusiness.com/index.php/news/article/expansion-of-areva-and-babcock-wilcox-expected-to-attract-skilled-workers-t/112804/]Virginia”>http://www.virginiabusiness.com/index.php/news/article/expansion-of-areva-and-babcock-wilcox-expected-to-attract-skilled-workers-t/112804/)</p>

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<p>Things are never quite as they’re websites claim, I guess. :wink: </p>

<p>Like Liberty’s circumstance, I’d be sorely concerned about the future intention of a corporation founded there and now moving its headquarters 200 miles down the road. Not a good sign, for sure. </p>

<p>Areva’s based in Bethesda, MD. with facilities all over the planet.</p>

<p>And Genworth’s HQ is Richmond, some distance down the road, with Lynchburg being only one of 8 national offices. Their foundation gave only $1million to all education in 2011. Still, as we know, insurance companies are always in need of employees to push and process product. Good knowing they employ some Liberty grads. </p>

<p>None of this should excite too many placement or development officers though. Not much money for LU, some jobs for sure.</p>

<p>I am not concerned. B&W only moved a few 100 out of thousands to C and has added more people and facilities to L since.</p>

<p>Also the correct name of the Areva unit HQd in L is Areva NP Inc. It is a wholly owned sub of Areva with its own CEO etc. Formerly Framatome.</p>

<p>Seems to me this discussion as meandered into the theatre of the absurd, contending that Babcock & Wilcox move to Charlotte is of none or some import, and Areva’s subsidiary unit having its own president is or is not key to Liberty’s future. I’m confident that if there was such a vital linkage in these, Liberty would be doomed, no matter.</p>

<p>Let me be clear. For student’s sake, I trust that there will be transparency that an on-line Liberty degree is far different than an on-campus degree. For the community’s sake, may Liberty continue to thrive. For barrons sake, may he enjoy many ballgames and artistic performances in Lynchburg retirement. For Liberty’s sake, may the decision to employ massive debt-funding dependent upon equally massive cash-flow prove to be pure genius.</p>

<p>And most of all for Christ’s sake, may all this honor Him. And to the degree it does, I’ll trust He will honor this experiment.</p>

<p>Lastly, let’s pray that the heart of doves has led to this path, and that wisdom of serpents will keep Liberty from falling from grace. And carefully watch with the confidence that God will discern in all of this. :cool:</p>

<p>Here’s an observation, to the degree of which the federal control of higher ed persists, and it will, could dramatically impact LU’s financial model and house of cards. Note the observation about “on-line” colleges, not dissimilar to what I’ve forecast. And what we can be 100% certain of … Liberty as an overtly CHRISTIAN college will not be treated favorably by our PC-drunk government, determined to extricate Christ from the classroom. They’ve done it in public schools and by controlling FA to students, will continue to erode Christ from college campuses. That’s why GCC and Hillsdale thumbed their campus noses at the feds. Liberty, like all the hundreds of other private, church-related campuses may not be able to afford that one. </p>

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<p>There are much more powerful colleges with a religious connection that would easily stop any such effort. How about ND, Georgetown, Brandeis, BYU and on down the line. There has been zero effort to try to limit the use of student fed aid at such schools. The focus is on the for profits and ther is plenty to keep the feds busy in that arena. </p>

<p>How exactly does B&W moving a few hundred senior execs to a town with better air connections doom the huge investment that they have made in L, the trained highly specialized labor force that enjoys the low COL on their high pay?? Certainly moving Boeing execs to Chicago from Seattle has had no impact on Seattle where Boeing employment has sky-rocketed since they left. When both firms had their moves there were some local concerns but you really hear none today. </p>

<p>Moody’s Econ.com Lyn Economic Forecast-11/12</p>

<p>Healthcare. Building on the industry’s al-ready-outsize role in the local economy, healthcare will grow faster than nearly every other industry over the next five years. Centra Health, the metro area’s biggest employer and an anchor to local healthcare, is expected to expand in the coming years in order to care for a graying population; one in five residents will be over the age of 65 by the end of this decade.
Beyond medical services, the metro area has growing potential in health sciences research and manufacturing. LYN is home to a number of pharmaceutical firms, including TEVA and its subsidiary Barr Laboratories, which draw skilled scientists and other well-compensated professionals. While area healthcare providers will benefit from the aging local population, LYN’s pharmaceutical firms will profit from national demographic trends. Through 2030, the population of the U.S. over the age of 65 is projected to grow three times faster than the general population. Moreover, a likely increase in demand from newly covered individuals under the Affordable Care Act further brightens the outlook for domestic pharmaceutical sales.
Private education. Area schools have been able to circumvent near-term risks and are set to expand on the back of growing enrollment and new revenue streams. LYN has been sheltered from the budgetary pressures afflicting the state’s large public universities, as Liberty University and Lynchburg College, both private, form the core of the area’s education industry. Together, the two schools account for about 4% of total payrolls. Liberty University’s distance learning program adds an upside risk to the forecast. The school has an on-campus student body greater than 13,000, but enrollment for online offerings is five times that figure. The metro area will gain as the university’s online program expands; a portion of incoming funds will be channeled toward new campus additions and offerings, which in turn boost on-campus enrollment. This virtuous cycle and climbing enrollments will help the industry outperform the general economy.
Manufacturing. High-tech manufacturing, specifically the fabrication of nuclear reactor components, will remain an important growth driver. LYN’s component producers’ largest customer is the U.S. Navy; area giant Babcock & Wilcox has secured more than $280 million worth of contracts this year alone. This estab-lished relationship has metro area firms situated to take advantage of the Pentagon’s pivot toward the Pacific. The operational shift will require additional nuclear-powered ships, ensuring continued long-term growth for LYN’s most dynamic industry.
Lynchburg’s recovery is on track thanks to the strong expansion of its core healthcare and education industries. Growth has been muted elsewhere but should take off once macroeconomic concerns subside. Local universities provide a steady stream of skilled workers, and the production of nuclear reactor components will remain a powerful driver of future development. LYN’s annual output growth is expected to surpass both Virginia and the U.S. throughout the length of the forecast."</p>

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<p>are you a NMF? if so, Baylor.
you can go there tuition free.</p>

<p>mybody123,
I am not a National merit Finalist, so that option is not really there. Also Baylor is a fairly big school and while it was founded on Christian beliefs, I am not entirely convinced that it is as Christian as people want to believe.</p>

<p>Most aren’t, you’ll find. </p>

<p>You’re right. Baylor is biggern than most public mass-educators. It’s no “small Christian college for small Christians.” :confused: ;)</p>

<p>Don’t we wonder how many of Liberty U’s 100,000 students are Christians? Or its 6,000 faculty and staff? :eek: How’d you like THAT vetting job. :(</p>

<p>LU does not require students to be Christians at all. BTW, B&W just announced another expansion in Lynchburg area.</p>

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<p>Lee University would give you a full tuition ride, so you’d be down to around $8,000 a year.</p>

<p>College of the Ozarks has no tuition. All students must work 15 hours or more weekly. A great deal! Berea College is another “no tuition” school, or as they like to say it, “all students get a 4 year, full-tuition scholarship.” There are a number of these schools, all of which are or at least were Appalachian “work” colleges. Warren Wilson in NC once operated in this fashion. Don’t know about now. Berry College in GA is a spectacular campus that has an extensive work program. They have strong ties to the Chick fil-A folks, Truett Cathey family. I know they provide MANY scholarships to their student workers, via Berry and a program they call WINSHAPE … Very Christian focused.</p>

<p>My D applied to Saint Peter’s university in Jersey city/NJ. At first the school offers my D a waiver in application fee. Then quickly, she got accepted with letters of big grant/scholarship as likely “free ride” and plus $4, 000 in housing. Later on she got an offer to join its Honor Program. My husband did some calculations and it seems that we can afford the rest and she will graduate with a debt free. In the meantime, she got accepted into the other private colleges : NYU, Stevens Institutes of Tech. U. of Illinois, Saint John’s in NYC; U.of Rhode Island, eventhough Rutgers, as our state school, when she graduates, she will have a big “debt” ranging from at least $100 K.
However, we try to search for the review of this university, but it seems nobody post any threads. Perhaps it may be still a small school; the school has a low rank . But you may have compare some other personal views in perspective.
Your stats are over qualified. Hope that my note will be helpfull</p>

<p>Thecats
Thanks for the advice, but I do not believe that Saint Peter’s would be the right fit, mainly because it is Catholic. I’m glad that your daughter found the right fit!</p>