<p>The numbers reported by collegeboard.com are averaged over the whole student body and give the total average indebtedness at graduation.</p>
<p>On the College Navigator page note the numbers on the left that say that 44% of Lehigh students get loans of any sort, 43% get federal loans and 11% get non-federal loans. I believe that the averages on the right side are made over different populations (i.e. the $12,371 number only applies to the 11% who take out non-federal loans, the $3,608 number applies to the 43% who get federal loans and so forth.) There are students who get no loans, students who get only federal loans, students who get only non-federal loans and students who get both. You cannot simply add up those averages to conclude anything about the overall population.</p>
<p>Bassdad, thank you for explaining this. I am going to back to Lehigh and take another look. Now, does this mean that 11% average 12,371 in private loans per year?</p>
<p>not anymore actually. Not sure of your age but i’m guessing you aren’t to familar with the current admission stats. my sister is a high school senior and was denied from NC State with an unweighted gpa above a 3.7…she also is involved in sports and student council. The average high school gpa to get even UNCW last year was a 3.7… Just because the amount of applications. All the others you named. if you have under or around a 3.5 then apply there.</p>
<p>My sis inlaw & her H had a 2nd D who made it clear through HS she viewed college as a 4 yr party. They cd not afford to fund such entertainments and also wanted the Real World to give her a wake up call. </p>
<p>They leaned on her to join the Army. This was some yrs ago when the country was not sending everyone to the sandbox. In her case, it was the best thing she could have done. </p>
<p>She put in her time as a quartermaster something, got benefits to go to college and when she got out she went to hairdressing school with business on the side. She has been working in the field and saving, and a few months ago opened her own shop. </p>
<p>She is a sharp young woman and very ambitious. She loves fashion & hair and all that. It’s a great fit for her.</p>
<p>Maybe some time in something like Americorps is best for DDs & DS who are not really ready to handle the expectations of college. A yr or two paying rent & getting up at 5 or 6 togoto work might give them a different perspective. Also, the Americorps time wd be looked on well by schools when they eventually apply. </p>
<p>My bro just got his MHS at 54, and he did not even go to college. His employer wanted to promote him to a position that required the M, so they sent him to a school offering it for 2.5 yrs, all day Saturdays and many nights. DB had a similarly spotty HS experience.</p>
<p>Can I have some quick advice? My school runs on a trimester schedule and colleges will be receiving my mid-term grades from what I know. I have a very difficult trimester and unfortunately, I will have a C on my mid-term for Anatomy & Physiology/H. However, I am doing well in my other three classes which include an honors and AP course. Will this C screw me up or am I worry about nothing? Note: I’m planning to major in International Relations or Political Science, nothing in the math or science field.</p>
<p>My sister is currently applying for schools and has well above a 3.2… but hasn’t taken any APS. readytoroll…I really liked your post. I felt very confused as well to why I went through so many posts going on and on about the number of AP’S there kid took…the average unweighted gpa from the high school I went to was a 3.7 unweighted (and it was a public 4A school)… I guess it depends on where you are from though…
I’m helping my sister apply…but right now we are in the process of hearing back from a few places. Honestly, I don’t know where else she should apply. She is a B to B+ student, and has played sports all 4 years. I think she will probably end up at ECU. But really wants to go to APP…what are her chances of getting into APP state? I don’t even know what there average GPA from HS is anymore.</p>
<p>chatty according to college board over 60% of the entering frosh class at Appalachian State has a gpa of over 3.75</p>
<p>You can compare her stats to college’s current frosh classes if you use the “How do I stack Up” feature at [Free</a> College Search | Scholarships | College Admissions Requirements](<a href=“http://www.collegeboard.com%5DFree”>http://www.collegeboard.com)</p>
<p>attention: all the wise and helpful 2010 parents: need help with D’s senior schedule:</p>
<p>She is thinking of:</p>
<p>precalc
APstats
english 12 (may be honors, not sure yet)
two history electives (honors…no AP’s offered)
spanish 3 (don’t ask…)
electives (not determined yet)</p>
<p>Here is the question:
She is currently enrolled in Bio Honors; doing fine…not an issue of grades…the honors class in 12th grade is geosciences; she has absolutely no interest in; will not be majoring in math/science…</p>
<p>she would rather take Genetics in the fall/Forensic science in the spring…no honors level offered…</p>
<p>Is it ok for her not to take the honors science as a senior? wanted to get everyones’ take on this…she is NOT applying to any competitive schools; mostly LAC’s…reachiest schools MAY be Elon or Union</p>
<p>School is private, very few AP’s with very stringent admissions…obviously AP stats is not one of them LOL</p>
<p>–bluecrayon, I doubt that one C on your senior-year transcript will make a difference, especially if you are doing well in honors/AP classes. It might make a difference at super-selective colleges, but it shouldn’t make a difference for colleges mentioned in this thread.
–rodney, absolutely it is ok for her not to take honors science as a senior, if the reachiest schools are the ones you mention.</p>
<p>I don’t think the lack of honors science is going to make any difference at all, especially if she is already taking a few honors classes next year. My son is taking one AP this year (Stats) and one honors (Latin). He took honors Bio and honors Chem, regular Physics (last year), and this year is taking a science elective like your daughter is thinking of doing. (The elective is fairly easy and I think he appreciates that given that it’s senior year and he is sucking every last drop out of high school social life!)</p>
<p>Rodney - Consider AP Psyc for an elective, it’s not too hard for my average kid. If credit is earned it can be applied toward most majors (some requiring it). I like this and AP Stats becuase when you take them in college they tend to be the larger classes.</p>
<p>seenitall: no AP psych offered at her school; we are thinking of taking it at CC possibly?that would take the place of one of the history electives…(or even in addition depending on scheduling)</p>
<p>IMHO, it’s much better to take a class that she is interested in and therefore will most likely do well in then to take one just on the slight possibility that it might make a difference to some unknown future school. And if she has no interest, may very well not do as well in that class.</p>
<p>^^yup, it’s actually genetics and impact on society, public health, etc…so much more interesting to me too…</p>
<p>She is actually going to speak to the Science chairperson to see if she can take it as an independent study so it can be an honors class; worth a try; I don’t think he’ll go for it, but no harm, no foul…</p>