New Airline Rules after terrorist attempt

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<p>You’ve stated that talks of closing Gitmo directly resulted in terrorist attacks. Until you prove that, your theory has as much credibility as my Clinton-Cowboys one.</p>

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<p>This almost makes terrorists seem more like American school shooters than religious/ideological warriors.</p>

<p>Never heard of school shooters screaming “god is great” as they killed people.</p>

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<p>Huh? Most school shooters DO come from poverty and oppressed conditions. I know of no school shooters who shot a school (in America) in the name of Islam. Did you quote the wrong part?</p>

<p>The dialogue in this thread makes me sick to my stomach. Seriously, is it acceptable to let the government try to solve all of problems? Yes, these terrorists are twisted people. But look at what its making us turn into. Way to make the America that stands for liberty turn into an oxymoron. Do the ends really justify the means or are we just blind to other solutions that don’t include massive screening or profiling by race/country? Isn’t this exactly what the people who tried to bomb us are attempting to do- inflict fear and hysteria, and eventually to force us to abandon our rights?</p>

<p>DCHurricane,</p>

<p>You’ve still yet to prove the link between talks of closing Gitmo and escalating terrorist attacks. If you don’t respond, I’ll take your silence as admission of your own faulty thinking.</p>

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<p>I was referring to the parallels between violence and what seems to be like feelings of isolation and parental neglect.</p>

<p>Yeah, I admit it was faulty. Congrats, you won an internet argument :)</p>

<p>“Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither”
Also, by child pornography laws, those machines produce pornographic images of children, thus rendering them lol-illegal.
Let’s just hope children are not subjected to this.
Any dbag can land a TSA job with a clean record.</p>

<p>Escalating terrorist attacks? I have a (much) greater chance of getting murdered in my small town in Missouri than being killed in a terror attack.</p>

<p>Eventually we’re all going to have to fly nude and all our baggage will have to be shipped on a separate plane to our destination.</p>

<p>This is just plain ridiculous. If a terrorist wants to blow up a plane, he’s going to figure out how. All this does is create paranoia. Think about how many planes fly each day in comparison to the number of terrorist attacks via airplanes. The chance that you will be on one is astronomically low.</p>

<p>pyroza, then the terrorists would swallow bombs or something. Which is exactly why looking for “things” does nothing- we need to look for people.</p>

<p>Also remember that airport security is the very last failsafe to national security. Putting all our emphasis on trying to nab terrorists at the airport is like trying to solve gun violence by issuing kevlar vests to everybody.</p>

<p>Big Brother is watching you.</p>

<p>And airport security isn’t the “failsafe” to anything.</p>

<p>Failsafe = safe from failure, unable to fail</p>

<p>It’s failed countless times.</p>

<p>Going back to the subject, it seems 2 carry on items are allowed once again, at least according to American Airlines online (they had it 1 carry on item for a bit) and NWA</p>

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<p>Sad but true :/</p>

<p>sorry to interrupt and change the topic but does anyone know if children under eighteen can still travel without government issued ID? I sent my passport in for renewal about three weeks ago and wasn’t expecting having to travel but I’m visiting a college on the 23rd of Jan. anyway, my point is that I doubt i’ll get the passport back and I have no other gov’t issued ID. all i basically have is my School ID & birth certificate and I’m 17 yrs old, traveling w/o parent. Anyone know for sure about the rules?</p>

<p>You can go to secretary of state and get a state ID fairly quickly, I did that before I was 18 because I didn’t get a drivers license until I was 18 and needed a gov’t ID. It looks mostly like a drivers license, but it is a government issued ID that does not authorize you to drive. :P</p>

<p>“This is just plain ridiculous. If a terrorist wants to blow up a plane, he’s going to figure out how. All this does is create paranoia. Think about how many planes fly each day in comparison to the number of terrorist attacks via airplanes. The chance that you will be on one is astronomically low.”</p>

<p>I was still sleeping in my bed right underneath a plane with a terrorist in it on Christmas Day. It obviously happens, and even once is too much.</p>

<p>"“This is just plain ridiculous. If a terrorist wants to blow up a plane, he’s going to figure out how. All this does is create paranoia. Think about how many planes fly each day in comparison to the number of terrorist attacks via airplanes. The chance that you will be on one is astronomically low.”</p>

<p>I think people in major cities (NYC, LA, Washington, Philly, etc) are more paranoid and have the right to be more paranoid. I live in NY and was about 30 blocks from the WTC the day it went down…i watched kids from my class not get picked up from school that day because their parents were dead. yes, the chances of folks in Mississippi or Oregon getting massacred is slim, but people in major cities are maybe more worried on the whole, particularly those who have known people who died in previous attacks. </p>

<p>anyway, even though airport security is tight, all it takes is one person to slip through, and it’s failed multiple times now, so I don’t know what to say about that but. you can’t really trust airport “security”. I don’t mind the scanners but I don’t think they’ll make much difference.</p>

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<p>I agree, in my opinion the terrorists have already won. This mentality of scaring people into giving up their rights, fear and mass hysteria is exactly what the terrorists want. The public is so scared of these so called terrorists that they give up their freedom for the illusion of safety. I mean, when was the last time you’ve even heard of people dying of a terrorist act in America? Even getting hit and killed by lighting is more likely than having the plane that you are on blow up. There are plenty terrorist acts in countries such as Iraq and even Russia and you don’t see them panicking and losing their head over nothing. </p>

<p>People have to realize that these ridiculous rules aren’t going to do much for a determined terrorist. This new security is just an illusion, the TSA is still as pathetic at detecting anything as it was before, how else did they miss a man bypassing security. Hell, I’ve heard of many people who unknowingly brought their folded knives or scissors on their carry on while having their water bottles and shampoo taken away. Doesn’t look like the extra screening helped much in those cases.</p>

<p>This is an absolutely ridiculous overreaction in my opinion, but hey, I guess its not my problem that the American public is so easily manipulated into being scared.</p>