New Airline Rules after terrorist attempt

<p>Careful romani, the apologists will jump all over you for suggesting we do something to prevent terrorism. </p>

<p>Whoever it was that said the CIA doesn’t have jurisdiction over visas… no kidding? That’s why they should have alerted the Department of State. It’s not like we can only use smoke signals, it’s really not that hard to shoot an email off to Hillary saying “Hey, there’s this terrorist guy who has free ability to get into this country, can you revoke his visa?”</p>

<p>Agreeing with east89, I had to take off my shoes in Japan and Korea.</p>

<p>shoe removal is not restricted to the u.s. i’ve had to take mine off in germany and greece as well.</p>

<p>At least the officers in Korea are hospitable compared to the TSA agents in the US and they offer you slippers to wear while you go through the metal detector.</p>

<p>^ In America, either the slippers would be used by hundreds or thousands of people everyday, or they would be disposable and would cost money that would then be passed on to us (the consumer). </p>

<p>Either way, I’d take the socks for a few minutes.</p>

<p>They offer slippers in the US too. Or at least they used to. I distinctly remember seeing these… slipper-like things that you could just grab from various dispensers in the security line.</p>

<p>Hmm, not in any of the airports I’ve been in. <em>shrugs</em></p>

<p>I have no idea why people gripe about taking off their shoes though. It’s literally like 5 minutes at the most, what’s the big deal?</p>

<p>We need to do what they do in Israel:</p>

<p>[thestar.com</a> iPhone : The ‘Israelification’ of airports: High security, little bother](<a href=“Breaking News - Headlines & Top Stories | The Star”>Breaking News - Headlines & Top Stories | The Star)</p>

<p>Granted it would take essentially an entire reworking of airports in the US, but think about it. Israel is SURROUNDED by people who would love nothing more than the destruction of the country and its people. Yet they’ve only had one incident in the past (as said in the article). </p>

<p>Also before anyone flips out, the type of “profiling” referred to in the article is behavioral profiling. Not racial profiling.</p>

<p>I’ve never seen slippers offered in the US too and I’ve been to a lot of airports too… </p>

<p>It’s annoying and makes the inside of your shoes dirty since your socks was on a public floor then goes back into your shoes. Especially when you had to take your sweater/jacket off, empty your pockets, take off your watch, take off your belt, take out your laptop from your backpack, and sometimes hold onto your ticket since the TSA agent at the metal detector sometimes want to see your plane ticket.</p>

<p>Jim, you could always bring a change of socks… Just saying.</p>

<p>reminds me of patrick bateman</p>

<p>That “Israelification” sounds like a good idea, although I would be a little leery of putting all my trust in security’s ability to spot problems just based on people’s behavior. After all, some people are good actors. Still, it’s an intriguing idea, and I think it’s one the U.S. should explore.</p>

<p>Israelification does sound like a good idea. If trained well enough, officials could spot problems fairly well. The problem is training that many people that well (after all, the US has the most airports out of any country in the world).</p>

<p>Btw, what do you guys think of this? [U.S&lt;/a&gt;. Intensifies Screening for Travelers From 14 Nations - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/us/04webtsa.html?hp]U.S”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/us/04webtsa.html?hp)</p>

<p>Basically, it means citizens of certain 14 countries (consisting of ones like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc.) will get more security screening than other travelers when boarding a US-bound flight. In other words, a German citizen would undergo less scrutiny than an Iranian. However, if the flight is being boarded at any of those 14 countries (or the passenger has gone through any of those 14 countries on his/her trip), all passengers are subject to the same screening regardless of citizenship.</p>

<p>People will cry racism but let’s be honest - the majority of recent terrorists have been from those 14 countries. I think it’s stupid, but not because it’s “raaaaaacist”… but because al-Qaeda will just recruit people out of some other country.</p>

<p>We need to do what the Israelis do. It wouldn’t be that hard. Yeah we have more airports than Israel but we also have more people. “Worst” comes to worst we could have troops doing it, although it might be a violation of posse comitatus (and there’d be no end to the apologists crying about the “police state”).</p>

<p>absolutely nothing different at all on my little jaunt up the west coast today.</p>

<p>Wow, okay I’m a little concerned about people talking about the talk of “Israelification” of us airports. Have any of you ever been to an Israeli airport? The chances of being sent home or not being allowed to board are much higher, and a lot of times it’s NORMAL people. My Dad’s friend who is Palestinian went over there for charity work and they refused to let him into the country. I’ve also been at the Israeli airport myself and the six layers of security might be short for some people, but for others they will keep you and interrogate you for long periods of time. Maybe it’s because I’m Palestinian, but I was subjected to six hours of security, questioning, waiting, humiliation, etc. </p>

<p>Like someone said earlier, more security is obviously not working. The government must realize that terrorism is linked to poverty and oppression, and they must solve the probblem at its roots. I’d rather my tax money go to funding and education in places where extremism is occuring rather than a couple of backscattering machines so they could scan grandpa.</p>

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<p>Quite simply not true. Most Muslim terrorists come from places where Islam is the dominant religion (not oppressed) and many, MANY terrorists come from very well-to-do families. It comes from a sick and twisted version of Islam.</p>

<p>^and it seems like out of all those people, at least one person will pass through security… And that’s all that really takes, one person out of thousands of people passing through security every day. :confused: too easy.</p>

<p>guys are the lines at US airports really long? im flying from one state to another, so international things involved. im flying sometime soon… wat are the new policies</p>

<p>^ It depends what airport your flying from since some large airports have a faster and more efficient security checkpoint than others like Newark. If your flying domestically you should try to fly at a nearby airport which isn’t popular like Los Angeles, New York’s LaGuardia and JFK, Chicago O’Hare, etc. But if you have no other options then too bad, all you got to do is leave early. If you have a high frequent flier card I doubt you do since it seems like you never flew before, you could have been able to go to the priority security lane which is faster and a smaller line. The policies for domestic flights aren’t really different just international flights travelling to the United States. You are able to have two carry ons if one of them is a bag but it can’t be two suitcases.</p>