New BusinessWeek UG B-School Ranking

<p>Your all so emotional. What, you get a commission to push your school? Gold nuggets?</p>

<p>liuo2bhs,</p>

<p>If you look at past business week rankings those rating change so much year to year it is hardly reliable. Getting the recruiter ranking is more about putting recruiters up in 5 star hotels than anything else. Do you really think that Haas, and Sloan, and Wharton are below all of the schools listed in recruiters eyes? Yeah, I didn’t think so. If it was so low, why would recruiters higher the most kids from Wharton? </p>

<p>Penn is known as the social ivy, kids have fun, Wharton does not co-operate with Business week at all which is probably why they get low ratings. Its students are not going to feel the need to gloss paint the true wharton experience because they know they are the best. Same reason why harvard kids feel free to insult their institution despite being loyal alums. The internship rankings thing is a joke, go to any top invesment bank or top financial firm and ask them which school had the most representation, i’d be willing to bet everything I have that 9/10 times it will be Wharton. Just because business week says that is what recruiters think, that is what the summer analyst placement numbers were, and that’s what Wharton students think about it, that does not mean it is true. Businessweek is so flawed in its methodolgy it is laughable. One of my friends at a BB said his friends would joke about BW’s rankings by saying that if stuck the names of various schools on a dart board and throw darts at them (with the school with the most darts in them would be the best for that year), your results would be more accurate that BW’s. BW is obviously just trying to sell magazines by pushing this crap that everyone knows is false because they know it will get everyone talking, as it has.</p>

<p>Nobody wants golden nuggets, it is all about platinum rims.</p>

<p>So, bottom line seems to be, a school is a top business school based on how many kids it sends to high-profile, high-pay, high finance, regardless of what exactly the survey says it is trying to rank. Additionally, no statistical survey which attempts to use an objective methodology can be valid unless it corroborates what “everybody” knows about a few particular schools. Also, attracting top students is a zero sum game, even though average test scores and other objective measures of the students attracted by the top schools vary marginally at best.</p>

<p>It’s also a good idea to make a straw man of your opponent’s argument so that you can knock down what they are “basically” saying as “■■■■■■■■.” Hearsay is also great when using personal opinions to say which schools are the best (and will always be the “best”) and which ones are a “joke” (and will never measure up).</p>

<p>Thank you BPKO43! Best post of the thread.</p>

<p>Amen BPKO43! Again and again this fellow resorts to childish means. A few points of clarification though…
I’m from a school where university is not stressed that much. While I am on the top, the difference between early action and early decision is not discussed at length. The girl I knew got into early decision… happy?
Again, acceptance rates do not make sense here because many other schools (Haas, Sloan, Harvard) admit into the university as a whole, not the business school. Simple supply and demand indicates that because supply is decreased, the acceptance rate will decrease.
Regarding accounting vs. finance, you are certainly not looking at the average here. Sure, the top finance people make far more then the average accountants. Family doctors in Canada make far less then lawyers; are they stupid? This site shows that the difference between accountants and finance jobs is sufficiently small that people’s choice depends on preference… you have to like your job regardless how much money you get. [jobWings</a> Finance and accounting jobs in Canada](<a href=“http://www.jobwings.com/finance-job/salaries-finance-accounting-sector-a70.html]jobWings”>http://www.jobwings.com/finance-job/salaries-finance-accounting-sector-a70.html)
As for kkr… if we are talking about undergrad wharton here, there are actually no alumni (yes, I can count). The one has a BA from upenn, no reference to wharton, and the other has an mba from wharton, not a bachelors degree. Looking closer at this list, it seems as though your argument is hurt because the majority of them went to schools well outside of HYPSM for undergrad (5 or 6, depending on Rutgers out of 9), indicating that the school you go to for undergrad is not as important as the person you become going out of undergrad, and what grad school this leads you to. </p>

<p>I have tried to be civil here, not calling you ■■■■■■■■, or childish, but I must comment that, since it is more important the person you become then the school you go to for ug, you need a attitude adjustment if you are going to be successful.</p>

<p>^ definitely agree with that last point</p>

<p>a school name looks good on a resume</p>

<p>but it is YOU who takes that resume and changes the world</p>

<p>Does it really matter with rankings? I mean there’s gotta be so many other ranking sources out there besides USN and BW and they’re all gonna have a different looking list. It all comes down to brand name. That said, I’ll take Wharton any day over all the other business schools.</p>