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This said, when using terms, one should recognize that "quite selective" is different from "very selective." The difference is notable on your reorganized list. And, yes, I do think that very selective should equate to Most Selective and not to More Selective.
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<p>First, the first time I wrote the list of selective schools that are SAT optional, I listed them in random order. The second time, I listed them according to acceptance rate to give a clear picture of selectivity. Second, I was responding to posts about SAT optional schools NOT being "very selective" and that "arguably none" are. In my view, "very selective" might equate with USNews' rating of "More Selective" which many on that list are labeled as by USNews. I would equate "highly selective" with what USNews calls "Most Selectve", of which a handful on that list of SAT optional schools falls under. Thus, in my view, there are a handful of highly selective schools and a fair number of very selective schools that are SAT optional even though most schools of these sorts are not SAT optional...some DO exist. As I wrote, at least the top half of that list of schools (where I ordered them by admit rate) are very selective. I never stated "highly selective" as I was responding to the "very selective" comments and that "NONE" are.</p>
<p>I agree with you that there are not a lot of schools that accept fewer than 30% on the Fair Test list and there are only a handful that are MOST or HIGHLY selective. But there are also some that accept between 30-50% and those are still very selective odds or "more selective" according to USNews. They are not open to everyone is my point since I was responding to previous posts. </p>
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At the end of the day, students who believe it is opportune to bypass the standardized tests will find their options quite restricted in general and almost non-existent if looking at the most selective schools in the country.
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<p>I agree with you! I would NEVER advocate for students to bypass standardized tests! Even those who apply to the schools I listed often do submit standardized tests and some of those schools have pretty high SAT range scores of admitted students. However, there are some very selective (or "most or more selective") schools (not the top elites) that are SAT optional. These may be a good option for a very good student who doesn't have stellar SAT scores but is highly qualified otherwise. </p>
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But many colleges that don't regard SAT scores much also don't regard high school grades much, or don't regard any selection factor much. Most colleges admit most students who apply.It is indeed rare for a college with a less than 50:50 chance of getting in to not regard SAT scores at all.
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<p>I believe that the selective schools on the top half of that list (or even some below that top half) definitely weigh grades and academic factors in admissions. </p>
<p>Obviously, schools that are NOT SAT OPTIONAL do indeed look at the SAT scores! There are more that fit into this category than the other, for sure. But just saying there are SOME very selective or more selective schools that accept fewer than 50% of applicants that are SAT optional in case anyone wants to find such schools....some exist.</p>