New College Rankings to be Released August 20th (and a couple questions of my own)

<p>The</a> New College Rankings Are Coming Soon - Morse Code: Inside the College Rankings (usnews.com)</p>

<p>Check it out for yourself! Where do you think Penn will stand?</p>

<p>Also, I have a question or two regarding Penn (why else would I post it here?)</p>

<p>1) If you apply to the M&T Program, get rejected, but get accepted to your second choice (i.e. SEAS), can you still earn a dual degree from Wharton? Can you take classes at Wharton?</p>

<p>2) What type of score-choice does Penn have? (please don't tell me to look at their web site because I have been there) Do they do superscore SAT? Do they only look at your highest SAT II score if you retake? etc.......</p>

<p>3) Please list the acceptance rates for the schools at UPenn (the website only has the overall, cumulative rate)</p>

<p>i.e. CAS-25%
SEAS-22%
Wharton............etc</p>

<p>(I just made those up btw)</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>someone posted Wharton’s acceptance rate was 11% this rate but historically, it’s been about 8-9% (I guess a lot of kids chickened out with the markets gone berserkers.)</p>

<p>I think CAS is 17% but don’t quote me on that.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>You can take courses in any college at Penn. You can also take graduate courses such as Law courses, MBA courses, etc. To get a dual degree with Wharton you want a 3.8 GPA freshman year (easier said than done). If you want to transfer into M+T get a 4.0.</p></li>
<li><p>Penn says they superscore and only looks at your top 2 SATII scores (from different subjects).</p></li>
<li><p>~10% Wharton, ~16% CAS, ~20-25% SEAS, god knows for nursing.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Penn is a solid top 10 school. Probably somewhere between 5 and 8. My money is on 7.</p>

<p>Thanks Venkat, all the answers I needed!</p>

<p>I think Penn will be 7th. Caltech will break the tie, but Penn will remain ahead of Duke, Chicago, and Columbia.</p>

<p>The most recently disclosed (informally–last year, I believe) acceptance rate for Nursing was around 25%.</p>

<p>Penn has been ranked somewhere from 4 to 7 in the US News rankings in each of the past 12 years. Doubt it will change much this year.</p>

<p>Do I have to submit SAT scores to Penn if I am only submitting my ACT scores?</p>

<p>I pretty much only needed to know SEAS, but was just wondering how it fared with other schools. Is anyone familiar with the SEAS program? How did you like it?</p>

<p>I’m actually pretty sure SEAS is only a percentage or two higher than CAS for acceptance, i ehard something like 16% for CAS and 18% for SEAS.</p>

<p>If you submit ACT scores you do not need SAT or SATII (unless things have changed, check the website).</p>

<p>If you are a competitive applicant for schools like MIT and Carnegie Mellon you <em>should</em> get into Penn SEAS (and Columbia SEAS) if you can express enough interest in your essays. You need competitive scores, grades, and ECs, but I would say it is the least likely to reject very qualified applicants. In other words, it’s less of a crapshoot than CAS or Wharton.</p>

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No but if you think your SAT scores (mainly SAT II) will help, you might want to. You could use score choice if you want…</p>

<p>OK thanks. I only have a 1950 SAT but a 32 ACT and 34 if Penn supercores so there’s no reason to send SATs.</p>

<p>ACT almost never gets superscored I think.</p>

<p>None of the top schools super-score the ACT (none that I remember, at least)</p>

<p>No top school school super score ACT.</p>

<p>I’m predicting that Penn will jump Stanford this year, regardless of what happens with CalTech. I think Stanford has made itself too exclusive in weird ways, and this will backfire as they don’t seem to be attracting the top students. My HS, which in this fairly typical year is sending four to Harvard, five to Yale etc. is only sending one to Stanford, a somewhat qualified but not awesome legacy. I think this will hurt them, even though exclusivity helps rankings.</p>

<p>OK well to answer two questions here. Not a lot of schools superscore the ACT, but Cornell as a matter of fact does. I’m pretty sure that is one of the only, if not the only, top school that does.</p>

<p>As for Wharton’s acceptance rate, it was pretty normal for the class of 2013. At my Penn preview day, I was told it was under 9% this year. That may be wrong, but that is the number I was given. The girl wasn’t supposed to tell us, but she liked our table so she did anyway. </p>

<p>Hope that helps.</p>

<p>My money is on Penn going down a spot or two this year…and if not this year then definitely next year when this year’s crappy acceptance rate is factored in and every Ivy gets a boost on Penn.</p>

<p>CAS acceptance rate this year was 13%</p>

<p>hey…sorry to steal your thread…but i have a quick question…i was always under the impression that the college of arts and sciences was <em>easier</em> to get into than the engineering one?? if i’m correct, i remember at an info session, that was implied…</p>