<p>As a proud acceptee to both Penn and Columbia, and someone thinking about majoring in English, I was pleasantly surprised to see this new ranking:
Rankings</a> - English - Graduate Schools - Education - US News and World Report</p>
<p>and columbia cracks the top 10 in econ.
[Rankings</a> - Economics - Graduate Schools - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-economics-schools/rankings]Rankings”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-economics-schools/rankings)</p>
<p>i still kind of hate these rankings, but to someone who said that columbia was not increasing, here is some proof of a lagging indicator.</p>
<p>not improving. in terms of undergrad ranking isn’t this year the highest Columbia has climbed to? in fact it seems to be steadily if not slowly moving up on this list. Not at the hot pace as Penn, but Penn also seems to drop just as fast it rises, which is strange.</p>
<p>^^ these are grad rankings. usnwr undergrad rankings come out in august. and yes penn is falling a bit b/c of admissions. columbia has always been above penn IMO i mean its nearly impossible to get into columbia (9% acceptance rate, etc).</p>
<p>yeah, Columbia is steadily rising all round, undergrad rankings have never been better and are still under true value [we’re tied with duke and ranked worse than Penn, we should be #6 or 7 better than Duke and U Chicago and tied with or better than Penn]. </p>
<p>For grad school Econ, I think it’ll take until the next ranking for Columbia to be recognized as having a better department and a better grad program [or at least as good as] than Yale, Penn, Northwestern and Berkeley. Rankings are sticky relative to true value, especially peer assessment, which is based on historical perception. The Econ Faculty is current comparable to a top 5 Econ school.</p>
<p>For English, no one cares what the rankings are.</p>
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<p>Seriously. How does a department with 3 nobel laureates currently in it (Stiglitz, Phelps, Mundell) come 10th in grad school rankings??? (That’s not even mentioning that the department has had more nobel laureates affiliated with it than anyone except U Chic)</p>
<p>Berkeley–really? They do have Stephen Booth I suppose.</p>
<p>MGMT_Fan - methinks you misunderstand selectivity and admissions. Acceptance rate is only reflective of number of applications, not the quality of the student body. Look at the recent thread that Muerteapablo put together comparing Dartmouth’s and Penn’s admissions statistics; admissions rate is not analogous at all to selectivity - only SAT averages and HS GPA can really be considered as actual indicators of ability. Is College of the Ozarks more selective than Brown? No, but they have a lower acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I got into Columbia, am going to Penn, and feel the need to educate people like MGMT_fan.</p>
<p>As for Econ - Columbia’s department is excellent, but Penn’s is also - it’s the home to the “International Economic Review,” has a Nobelist and several Nobel-level economists, and all the behavioral people at Wharton.</p>