<p>Too bad I spent $1700 already on a x230T plus a Dell Vostro 3550.</p>
<p>The specs on the MacBook are actually impressive.</p>
<p>2880 x 1800 resolution !!!</p>
<p>The GPU is too slow to take advantage of the screen but for basic tasks this thing would be great</p>
<p>Apple upgraded the whole MacBook line, including the MB Air - [MacBook</a> Air gets new processors, adds USB 3.0 | Macworld](<a href=“http://www.macworld.com/article/1167182/macbook_air_gets_new_processors_adds_usb_3_0.html]MacBook”>MacBook Air gets new processors, adds USB 3.0 | Macworld)</p>
<p>If you purchase one of the new MB Pros or Airs, it will include a free upgrade to the next operating system (Mountain Lion) that will be released in July.</p>
<p>Apple will also apparently announce a similar back-to-school deal as last year; a $100 iTunes gift card. Reportedly, you can also get a $50 card with the purchase of an iPad.</p>
<p>1) not sure how it’d do with windows
2) Thermodynamics. Who knows how hot its gonna run. Given track record, probably pretty hot.
3) No ethernet. Wifi is often not a very good solution. Most likely to sell more of their overpriced routers. (they have an adapter, but they’re selling it to probably get more money)
4)$2200 for something most people have no practical benefit getting.
5) two USB 3.0 ports. Pretty few for a 15.4" laptop, and pretty easy to use up as well.</p>
<p>I hate Apple, but it is still essential to not make a sudden decision to buy and get a more full answer to all the above questions before deciding to buy or look elsewhere.</p>
<p>The new Pro is beautiful and in the education store it is $200 cheaper but all in all I think that you should wait until the consumer reviews start coming out before you buy.</p>
<p>“I hate Apple” … and your five reasons are responsible for Apple’s failure in the marketplace.</p>
<p>[Hands</a> on with the Retina MacBook Pro | Macworld](<a href=“http://www.macworld.com/article/1167229/hands_on_with_the_retina_macbook_pro.html]Hands”>http://www.macworld.com/article/1167229/hands_on_with_the_retina_macbook_pro.html)</p>
<p>This is a brief review of the new MB Pro. The display looks impressive! I should think that while this is a great laptop, it may be overkill for most students, who might find better cost-benefit from a MacBook Air. I think that if I were an incoming college student today, I would opt for the 11" MB Air, as it is reasonably powerful and would be so easy to slip into a small bag.</p>
<p>P.S. I have not yet found in myself the capability to hate any company, although I periodically have extraordinarily unkind thoughts about Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase. Computer companies of any stripe are way down my list.</p>
<p>Everything sounds awesome… Until I hear the price. Over half the things that contribute to the huge Apple price tag mean little or nothing to me. It’s like Xbox. It’s a waste of time and money, but it’s a ton of fun!</p>
<p>I’m trying to decide which Mac to get - my S is a music major, and the school made it clear that PC’s are not good for music software - Finale or Sibelleus? They also said don’t waste your money on a MB Air, it needs to be a MB Pro. I can’t justify the money for the 15" much less the new retinal display, so we’re trying to find the best price on a 13" - I figure it will be easier to tote around at that size and weight anyway. It’s $100 off and the $100 gift card for the lowest level 13" on the apple store.</p>
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<p>I have seen no reviews as to how it runs with Boot Camp. I would expect it to run normally with Virtual Machine software.</p>
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<p>I use my current 17 inch MBP for software development. I’d be fine with integrated graphics. Heat is unlikely to be an issue for me.</p>
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<p>I currently have a D-Link USB to Ethernet adapter. I’d prefer on-board Ethernet but I think that this laptop is too thin for an Ethernet port.</p>
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<p>I have a 17 inch MBP for the display. The Retina MBP will get me from 7.2 pounds to 4.4 pounds. My computer is 4.5 years old so things should be generally faster though performance isn’t a big issue with me.</p>
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<p>I expect to see third-party Thunderbolt hubs where you do one plug at home or office and that gives you Ethernet, DVI, VGA, Firewire, and additional USB ports. I can just use Synergy with my existing desktops too.</p>
<p>I just placed my order for the high-end model. Expected delivery is four to five weeks out. It looks like they didn’t make enough for initial demand.</p>
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Wouldn’t that bottleneck the data transfer rates, therefore negating the benefit of the 3.0?</p>
<p>You have 10 gb bandwidth. 1 gb for Ethernet. 9 for the rest. How much do you need? I’d just use the MBPR USB 3.0 ports if I needed to hook up a storage solution.</p>
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Not the optimum max transfer rate, but the real rate given the channel between the transmitter and receiver. The longer and narrower the channel, the longer it will take to be received and the higher likelyhood fo data disruption. Sending 10GB from your bedroom to your neighbor’s bedroom is, technically, different than sending 10GB from your bedroom in the US to your friend’s bedroom in China.</p>
<p>EDIT: And that’s if all the data is going all in the same direction at once. Which never happens these days considering most will be using something on the comuter at the same time they are sending something.</p>
<p>Practically speaking, what is the configuration that you would be using to cause a throughput problem? At most, I just need the USB ports for keyboard and mouse receivers or wires and maybe a monitor or two. Do you have a setup where you need more bandwidth?</p>
<p>I walked in to the apple store 2 days ago all set to buy a 15" macbook pro for my D for her HS graduation and as the salesman attempted to convince me that I probably should go with the 13" (my D had decided on the 15" mainly to have a bigger screen to watch movies on, etc. during college), I happened to mention to him that others in my family have told me they are getting my D an ipad for graduation. At that point, the salesman changed course to suggest to me that what I should do is get her a desktop for less than the 15" (a 27" desktop is $100 less than the 15" macbook pro-- and the 21.5" far less yet)-- and then she can use the ipad plus the keyboard to take notes (she does want to use her computer to take notes)-- and the ipad or ipad and keyboard for most everything she would do away from her room-- and then have a very powerful computer with a great screen in her room. At first I thought this sounded ridiculous-- so old fashioned to have a big desktop computer in college. But the more I thought about and looked at that fabulous 27" screen picture, and thought about the fact that having a macbook pro AND an ipad is rather redundant, AND the fact that should she drop the ipad or loose it or otherwise break it, it would be far less expensive to fix or replace than a macbook pro. On top of that, the ipad and keyboard are much lighter than the 15" or 13" macbook pro. Sooooooo now I don’t know what to do. I’m considering just wrapping a note and saying she should think about it-- OR I could go ahead and get the 27" desktop to go with the ipad and tell her I’m happy to exchange it for a 15" macbook pro if she wants to. I think the ipad/desktop combo sounds great. And it seems that that is what Apple now thinks is the perfect college combo (not just for my kid but in general). I think it sounds great! But I’m 48 years old. I want to know what any of you college age people think. Of course, my D will have the last word, but do you think I’m nuts or do you think this sounds like a good plan???</p>
<p>I don’t think that iPads are useful for college students in their dorms as far as studying goes unless they have class applications specifically for the iPad. They might be nice for entertainment though. I think that a laptop is a lot more useful for college students.</p>
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Personally I don’t. This is for the generalization that you’re giving to “see third-party Thunderbolt hubs where you do one plug at home or office and that gives you Ethernet, DVI, VGA, Firewire, and additional USB ports.”</p>
<p>It’s fine and dandy when all you’re using your USB ports for are keyboards and mice, but if you’re trying to work with multiple data storage devices and/or web hosting, then there will be an ill effect to that method.</p>
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What’s her major?</p>
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<p>I’d guess that the vast majority of MacBook Pro users don’t order the 12 TB storage array option.</p>
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<p>There are two Thunderbolt ports on the MBP so you could hook up the big storage array to the other port.</p>
<p>Do people use their laptops for web hosting? What do you do when you have to take it on the subway?</p>
<p>My son works with data approaching the petabyte area. His server room has 10xGigabit bandwidth and they apparently buy specialized servers and storage arrays to handle the huge amounts of data. I think that my company does something similar though that’s all a black box to me. If I need more capacity, I’d probably get a server instead of a laptop. My laptop is meant to be mobile.</p>
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You’re the one that brought it up in terms of bandwidth. If you question why someone would use their laptop for bandwidth power, then why would you bring it up in a discussion about a laptop?</p>
<p>The form can be more simplistic. Say you have a miltiport connected to a single thunderbolt port. The data rate effected thus negates the faster rate promised by the thunderbolt (or even USB 3) as soon as the channel is grown or split - i.e. when you try to use two or more receptors in a single transmitter (the origin port). Like it’s been stated, it won’t effect a keyboard connection, but keyboards aren’t the only thing that uses USB these days. Not to mention it cuts down on battery life as well.</p>
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<p>Actually you brought it up here:</p>
<p>"Wouldn’t that bottleneck the data transfer rates, therefore negating the benefit of the 3.0? "</p>
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<p>If you’re using a hub for VGA, DVI, Ethernet, etc. one could assume that you have a power adapter and 120VAC.</p>
<p>If you need USB 3.0 bandwidth, you could always use the two built-ins.</p>
<p>Consider the fact that many desks in lecture halls with be very small, making anything larger than 13" awkward and prone to falling. I had a 14" VAIO my first two years at school, and even that felt like it was teetering on my desk everytime I took it to class; I’m getting the 13" MBA for my junior year in the fall.</p>