<p>Does anyone know what sorority is coming to W&L? Is a house going to be built for them before they recruit new people?</p>
<p>Presentations will be made by 3 NPC members organizations in January. They are Alpha Delta Pi, Delta Delta Delta, and Phi Mu. </p>
<p>It would be a very expensive proposition for W&L to build a house like the other 5 as a speculation that Group 6 will materialize. However, when expansion had been broached in past years, groups ended up backing out because the playing field would be very uneven without a house.</p>
<p>HI MOTHER - LTNS you - just checking in LOL - about a new sorority at W&L - are there any frat houses not being used?? I remember the days when the sororities utilized 1 of the frat houses and essentially 'shared' it - that was until the new ones were built. Any mention of this at all??</p>
<p>Still love W&L LOL - can ya tell?!? How is your student doing??</p>
<p>I heard the KKG wants to block Tri-Delta?</p>
<p>Anyways, would the 6th srat extend bids to current independents, like Beta did for the guys earlier in the Fall? or would bidding be different for sororities?</p>
<p>I heard the same rumor as you. Apparently a lot of TriDelt legacies are Kappas at W&L.</p>
<p>How expansion done at other schools is that the presentations are made to all the members of the current women's orgs and that each Panhel house already on campus gets a vote. So even if 1 house doesn't like a particular org, if that org gets the most votes, then that org will still be invited on. So if everybody else likes 3D except Kappa, 3D would be invited.</p>
<p>Once the house is invited on, national officers and local alumnae will come to campus to hold information sessions open to the entire campus. Indies will go through an interview process etc. so that the org's reps can decide who they want to be a charter member of their W&L chapter. They may take everybody, they may take only a small percentage of interested women.</p>
<p>Then next year during Formal Recruitment, the New Group will probably participate in Round 1 where all the PNMs see all the houses but not participate in the rest of rounds. They will then do a major recruitment right after Panhel Formal Recruitment ends.</p>
<p>From what I understand, Beta offered bids automatically to all the Kappa Sig pledges from the year before but selected independents as individuals. I could be wrong on this. However, I do know that NPC (the umbrella org. for the 26 women's GLOs) does things a lot differently than NIC (the umbrella group for the guys).</p>
<p>Yeah I would bet Tri Delt coming to W&L would be the Kappas worst nightmare, theyre the only sorority that can outkappa the Kappas.</p>
<p>Perhaps it would make a more even playing field? Although this year, 4 groups made quota (and a couple of those made quota plus! :) ) and the 5th group gave enough snap bids to get quota within 24 hours.</p>
<p>If I had my druthers, I would encourage the Panhel members to pick TriDelt. It's by far the strongest nationally as compared to the other 2. Since W&L is really trying to increase various diversities, to include geographic, it would behoove the women's GLOs to pick the group that can provide the most support from its alumnae and that is the most well-known on the national level. Phi Mu and ADPi are great groups, they are just smaller and more regional.</p>
<p>i know of quite a few girls who fell through though. :(</p>
<p>Quota plus is a way to help the PNMs who did things by the book and still got cross-cut at the end. Again and again, Panhel Rho Gammas, current actives, and alumnae tell the PNM to keep an open mind about all houses. If a girl did not maximize her options ie go back to all parties to which she was invited if she didn't have a full schedule, then she is not eligible for the quota plus. We all know of rushees of both sexes that would rather be independent than to be XYZ. That is fine, but the rushee can't complain that they didn't get the house of their choice.</p>
<p>I'm not so sure if this isn't a bit early to add a chapter. The 5 houses still aren't ALL making quota without having to snap bid. One group finally made quota for the first time in years. Another group has had to snap bid 2 years in a row to make quota.</p>
<p>I think there's a srat extension meeting on the 29th of this month.</p>
<p>Motherdear, great to be in a conversation with you again. As far as I know the issue is not about too many girls drop through - it is very rare for a girl who goes in with an open mind to not get in anywhere, most independents end up because they decided not to go through/complete rush or did not want to join the sororities that wanted them. The reason to bring in another sorority house is because the sororities are too big - way bigger than the sorority houses are made to hold for chapter meetings, rush events, etc. Bringing in another sorority will allow PanHel to lower quota to keep the houses at capacity and as a side benefit it will make rush a little less stressful.</p>
<p>Dima has a couple of good points. BTW, how was your study abroad? :)</p>
<p>The girls who get no bids at all are usually the ones that do not keep an open mind. At W&L, Round 2 is the potential for 4 parties. If a PNM gets invited back to all 5 from the previous round, she has a decision to make as she has to cut 1. She can do what is called "regrets with interest" so if some fluke occurs and none of her 4 invite her to Round 3, she can reactivate the group she had to cut. Sometimes a PNM will get receive fewer invitations than the total number of parties for a particular round and that's when the Rho Gammas encourage the PNM to attend all parties to which she is invited. Unfortunately PNMs have preconceived notions about the houses (just one hazard of deferred recruitment) and some PNMs think that they could never fit in the socialite/athletic/academic stereoptype group. </p>
<p>In terms of chapter size, I do find it ironic how large the Panhel orgs are as compared to the size of the Generals student body. To have quota of 34 (which translates to chapters of over 120 each) at a school that only has 225-250 women per class is quite amazing.</p>
<p>There is a report on the W&L website published in Fall of '05 stating the need for a 6th women's GLO. The report points out that the houses were built to accomodate an 80-member chapter. This does not mean 80 girls live in the house, just that each of the dining rooms have 80 chairs for meals. It also mentions the fact that so many students come to W&L partly due to its size and intimate feel.</p>
<p>The houses are gorgeous and impressive, not just to the young women but to their old fogie parents who show up for Parents' Weekend and take the sorority house tour. As an advisor for my GLO for many years at many different chapters, the W&L Panhel Row is one of the best I've seen.</p>
<p>When's spring rush and how does that work? I'm assuming that the girls don't have to visit all 5 houses right?</p>
<p>Each college's Panhel has one Formal Recruitment per year. W&L does a deferred recruitment which just happened. Houses that don't make quota (the number of PNMs after Round 3/ total # of houses) or whose active membership totals are below ceiling are eligible to do Continuous Open Bidding (snap bids).</p>
<p>According to your student newspaper, quota was 34 and all 5 chapters actually got quota plus. So unless a group's total membership is below ceiling (and I don't think that is the case if Panhel wants to expand), there will be no informal recruitment.</p>
<p>@WL2011:</p>
<p>No. There were not "quite a few" girls who fell through. The number of girls who actually FELL THROUGH recruitment was under 5. Everybody else who registered for recruitment but is not in a house either dropped out because they weren't happy with the houses they were invited back to, or the refused a bid from a house. This is NOT falling through, it is making a choice not to be Greek. That's fine, but it's not falling through. I would think that it would be preferable to say "I decided it's not for me right now" than to say "Nobody wanted me," but apparently not.</p>
<p>Kappa was actually the only one who voted Tri Delt first</p>
<p>go figure (does it matter?)</p>
<p>I heard ADPi is the winner. Now let's see if they don't wimp out as did AXO.</p>
<p>ADPi is indeed the sorority coming to campus. Apparently it was extremely close (they were within 1 vote of each other). I doubt they'll retract their offer, W&L is pretty much a rockstar school for sororities (great academics, rich students, highest greek participation in the country) and since they're definitely getting a house, the playing field is as even as it's going to get (the lack of housing was why all previous sororities decided not to come). I really liked ADPi and am interested (and, of course, nervous) to see how this is going to affect next year's rush.</p>
<p>Will a new house be built on Frank Parsons or will they get the Kappa Sig house?</p>