<p>I'm not sure if this is presented somewhere else within the forum, but could someone summarize the approach of the other studios, especially if you have children there or are there yourself? I've looked on the Tisch site, but it is at times, rather abstract language (naturally, since the process of acting technique tends to be abstract) and I'd like to hear a more "first person" point of view.</p>
<p>Susan,
You are right again!
When I don't know the answer to a student or parents' question, I do refer them directly to the school itself. That's always best (even then you sometimes get different answers)<br>
I am half teasing about not needing NYU when we have you. It was meant as a compliment to you really. </p>
<p>This forum is still great for impressions and opinions, as you noted. But for instance, do I respond to the post about the difference in the studios? Gosh, it's tempting, I certainly do have opinions about that, but they are second hand, from students and faculty, and it is also just opinions certainly not fact.
I think I will refrain this time. </p>
<p>xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>Soozie - I was just kidding when I called you guys "influencers." :) Honestly, the only reason I hadn't put NYU on my list from the start was the cost. I am going to be putting myself through school, and it's almost twice as expensive as any of the other schools I'm applying to. There's only so much that loans will cover, plus living expenses that I'll have to pay for out of my savings, and I thought I wouldn't be able to do it all by myself.</p>
<p>But then I thought about scholarships and how you never really know what you might get unless you try, and how much I love NYU and CAP21, based on my research and visits there. If I was a CAP21 student, I'd be in heaven. I love the way their curriculum is set up; it's truly collaborative, and it's so intense, which I need. I'm the kind of person who thrives on being ridiculously busy - the more free time I have, the less I get done. :) So a really intensive program is exactly what I need to be really successful. On top of everything else, my sister lives in NYC, and we always lament the fact that we can't live in the same city. It would be a great option for me in many ways.</p>
<p>So don't worry, I don't think of you as an NYU advertisement AT ALL. All you did was remind me of things that were already keeping camp in my brain.</p>
<p>Kirstensofie, I'm going to hold off in describing the approaches or experiences in the other studios since I do not have first hand information. I know some about each studio and have read about it, as you say you have as well, so I would not be offering something new there. My daughter has friends in several other studios but again, this is not information close enough to the source. There are a couple parents on this forum with a child in an acting studio and maybe they can shed more light. Being a MT forum, there are more from CAP here. If you have specific questions, I MAY be able to answer it. If i knew your particular interests, again, I may be able to guide you to which studios seem more fitting. </p>
<p>Samia, I realized that you did not decide to apply to NYU based on anything I posted here because all I was doing was answering questions, not really describing the program or anything like that. I could tell that you were perhaps weighing the school and it just got you to think about it more and so that process was going on for you anyway. Cost is certainly a factor in choosing schools. If you are on your own, perhaps your financial aid will come through (you are a financial aid applicant, yes?) and there are some scholarships and you can't tell if you'll get 'em unless you try. My daughter was fortunate to get a substantial amount from NYU. We allowed our kids to apply wherever they wanted. We'll just be paying it back for years to come, lol. We are willing to do that as we value education and feel they have worked hard to get to this point and now we have to come through and find a way to pay for it, even if it will take many years to do so. I applaud you for going for this and for putting yourself through. Perhaps your financial aid application will result in good packages with scholarships as you will be able to show need. </p>
<p>A caution I would give to ANY student applying to schools that are so selective with very low admit rates (not just talking NYU here), is to not have your heart set on any ONE particular school. It is almost a set up for disappointment. If that school came through, great, but the chances are not good at any single school when we're talking such selectivity. Rather, make sure you like something about every school on your list enough to attend. Naturally, you may have a pile of schools on your list that you like better than another pile but as long as you don't fall in love with just one and pine away for that one, you'll be better off. </p>
<p>If you have any questions about CAP21, I can try to answer them (and I'm not talking NUMBERS here, but questions about the actual program and stuff like that). </p>
<p>Best of luck with your admissions/audition journey. Having a sister in NYC is a plus, I would say. You may even be able to get an apt. together. </p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>A few years ago, a friend who was Tisch/Adler told me a joke of sorts that characterized each acting studio...The joke was something like "How do students from each studio change a lightbulb?" The answers ranged from things like, "At X studio, they BECOME the lightbulb" to "At Y studio, they say *%@$ you, lightbulb!" It was both funny and revealed the "vibe" that each studio was known to have among the students - anyone else heard this? The friend who told me this is currently out of the country, or I would ask her...</p>
<p>Yes, I read that on an NYU livejournal somewhere, CoachC. It was very funny.</p>
<p>Long time no post (or come on CC) but I thought I'd help out with what I know of the lightbulb jokes... </p>
<p>Some of them include (paraphrasing slightly)...</p>
<p>How many ETdub kids...? "Green"
How many CAP kids...? "I don't do tech."
How many Strasberg kids...? "I had a lightbulb once..." <em>tear</em></p>
<p>Those are the ones I remember for sure... hopefully someone can help me out on the others!</p>
<p>My d is a Freshman in Steinhardt now. Just to respond to a few of your questions about Steinhardt....Steinhardt is more MUSIC focused than Tisch. You take lots more hours in music classes, i.e. Aural Comp, Music Theory, Keyboard, Music History. The nice thing about Steinhardt is that they have a very fluid crossover between classical and music theatre. The degree is designated as Vocal Performance with an emphasis in either classical or music theatre. The acting training is top notch and the faculty very caring. The program is smaller...approx. 16-18 in each emphasis. The big weak spot is dance training...not nearly as much as most MT programs....but you can supplement with Broadway Dance or some other training program, there are many in the City. My d loves Steinhardt! She was accepted in 5 programs, so there's always some questioning about whether you have made the right choice. But about 3 weeks into school, she called with an enthusiastic, "Mom, I know I'm in the right place." That's the challenge....finding the right place that fits you and what you are looking for in a program. Get tough and critical about evaluating the differences between programs as you are searching. Good luck!</p>
<p>that's interesting.
My students at Steinhardt and Tisch tell me that acting is the weak link. Maybe it's all a matter of personal taste.</p>
<p>xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>Mary Anna,</p>
<p>We considered Steinhardt very seriously and my D was accepted there in 2004. After much research and several meetings with very caring and professional faculty there, we came to believe that both acting and dance were given short shrift at Steinhardt. However, I am not in a position to dispute Divamom's D's opinion that the actual acting training is top notch as we were in no position to judge the QUALITY of the training. Our concern was with the AMOUNT of curricular time dedicated to acting. Probably because of the many music requirements, there just didn't seem to be time for sufficient acting training to suit my D. Dance seemed to be limited to us in both quality and quantity.</p>
<p>what is this about a tisch livejournal? what's the address?</p>
<p>ToTheStage:</p>
<p>Here is the address:</p>
<p>Mary Anna, your students were indeed correct. Steinhardt and CAP 21 are known amongst the Tisch populace as being great programs, but particularly weak in the acting department, at least when compared to the other studios. Tisch is a strong arts program, one I don't regret attending, but each studio is very distinct, each with their one unique weaknesses and strengths.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that Steinhardt is for singers who can act and Tisch is for actors who can sing. Now I don't know too much about Steinhardt, but I studied at CAP over the summer and CAP placed heavy emphasis on all parts of musical theatre. Your acting classes are as intense as the kids who are in straight acting studios, dance is pretty intensive (wouldnt say as much as a dance major, but there is a huge emphasis on dance) and vocal technique is done through private voice lessons, except for 1st semester fresh year. So Tisch is very encompasing of all 3 things to make true triple threats!</p>
<p>TheatreGuy120 I wouldn't go as far as to say CAP acting classes are as intense as most of the straight acting studios, that would be a misnomer, but yes, it does have a strong acting emphasis, for a Musical Theatre program.</p>
<p>I know CAP places a huge emphasis on acting! That's one of CAP's claims to fame I guess. The fact that they train you to be a truly talented actor who can sing and dance very well. Where as most of the mediocre schools seem to think that if you can sing you can be on broadway, no need to be excellent dancers and singers! I have heard that many CAP alums go on to not only work on Musicals on broadway but straight plays as well!</p>
<p>I saw a former student who is a Junior at TISCH over the holiday who said that the tuition will increase substantially next year. Good grief!</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm this?</p>
<p>Thanks,
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>MaryAnna, there is no way that your student could know that, and it does no one any good to post non-information like this. Tuition rates for each year are not made available til March sometime and even then, they are just estimates for the following year. Although fees generally increase annually at NYU, just as they do at most colleges across the country, no one knows yet what next years' fees are likely to be.</p>
<p>Well, thats so true!</p>
<p>This Tisch student actually quoted me a figure which I purposefully refrained from repeating for that very reason of not wanting to misinform. So I share your concern. She was told it by her parents. Maybe they are physic!</p>
<p>I was just hoping someone might know whether the increase is fact or fiction and how much. It seems this student's Tisch parents know something about an increase but I don't know where they got their information.</p>
<p>Yes, schools increase their tuition and I did check with the college board tuition amount from last year and then the NYU website and there is a substancial increase reflected, if it is up to date. </p>
<p>I have two students (ED) who are attending as freshmen next year. I am seeing one set of parents tonight and wil ask if they know of any increase. If I find out anything concrete I will be happy to post. </p>
<p>Thanks for your response,
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>Mary Anna, thanks so much for helping us keep abreast of any information that you receive. I know personally how credible you are and how carefully you post. So we appreciate you and all the great advice you have for us.</p>