<p>They expect your flesh, blood, and bone to be tied to your instrument at Julliard. It is all you do. I'm not surprised he chose Rice, if he was looking at the overall collegiate experience. </p>
<p>I don't know anyone who's turned down an Ivy or the like for a "lesser" (I use that term very loosely) school.</p>
<p>There are also supposedly certain instruments where you can get better instruction elsewhere. Chemistry with certain teachers can play into it as well. Besides ... Some people just don't like Juilliard. It has a rep for being very cutthroat. I know a trumpet player who chose Peabody over them. I think it was because he got a better scholarship offer, though.</p>
<p>i had a friend who went to julliard. she used to practise 8 hours/day... IN SEVENTH GRADE... hehe yeah crazy... it would be saturday and we'd go iceskating and ask her to come along and she would be like "no i gotta practice"</p>
<p>It's really difficult to say what defines one top music conservatory as being "better" than another one. There are tons of different variables when you're looking at music schools:</p>
<p>*orchestra quality/program/repertoire
*overall reputation of the program
*reputation of the faculty/department for the specific instrument or field you're entering into
*placement of graduates in orchestras vs. quartets vs. solo careers vs. university tenure track positions... what do you want to do afterwards?
*chemistry with the faculty in your department (eg, with all the violin faculty if you're a violinist)
*chemistry with your particular lessons professor (if you don't get along with your violin teacher, your life's going to suck)</p>
<p>Then if you're doing something like music composition...
*What are the chances that you'll get a performance of an orchestra/band/choral piece?
*What's the performance faculty's attitude towards new music? Do they support student composers?
*Are there any interesting research opportunities that are offered? For example, the new LCAT program at LSU offers some very interesting research for composers with regard to how technology aids the learning and composition process in the arts.
*Does the faculty emphasize tonal composition? Are they more atonal/modal in their persuasions? What's their attitude towards computer music?</p>
<p>So, for a lot of undergraduate prospectives in something like engineering, finding the right program for you is like finding a well-fitting shoe. There are basically only a few parameters... Do you like the school? Does it have a strong engineering program? Once you have the shoe style and size picked out, you've got the hard part out of the way. For music students, finding the right school is much more like ordering a custom-made suit. There are lots of things that you must look at in order to figure out which school is a school that will cater to your fortes (pardon the pun) and will mold you into the very best musician that you can be, and it's difficult to find the right fit.</p>
<p>a girl around here turned down princeton, harvard, yale, and stanford for a full ride to tulane.. i guess people would turn down big name schools for scholarships</p>
<p>Hahhahaha, Tulane is where I (and almost 20% of students) am transferring <em>out</em> of. Good luck to her! I hope she likes it. Not a choice I would make...obviously. Lol. BROWN HERE I COME.</p>
<p>I agree with your comment about music, and your analogy about a school being a custom made shoe...The same is very true for art...just recently I got into Cooper Union (which is, as they say, "the best art school in the world") However I turned it down for NYU Scholars Program and a Full Scholarship....Cooper Union is also full tuition, but when I visited, something about it did not fit me...I also wanted a full education because I believe as an artist you need to be well educated in order to have something to say or in order to have richer perspective</p>
<p>It's not only scholarships, but the benefits one gets in addition to the money. Things like guarenteed matching mentorships with professors, weekly dinner seminars, discussions with visiting distinguished speakers, special community rooms, group study abroad, registration priority, etc. can easily surpass many of the benefits the more "prestigious" schools can offer.</p>
<p>You don't get that at Tulane if you're on scholarship........</p>
<p>Just curious. Tulane is one school I think my S might like. Would like to hear your thoughts good and bad. Thanks.</p>
<p>Hmm, dunno if this has been mentioned yet...but a kid at Southern Methodist University came in 2nd place at the World Series of Poker last year (winning $3.5m in the process)...</p>
<p>He was accepted at Princeton and another top school (Harvard or Stanford). He enrolled at Princeton but was so homesick that he went back to Texas after freshman year.</p>
<p>so.....why didnt he go to rice?</p>
<p>Maybe it was a money issue as well...but it's not exactly a problem now.</p>
<p>I turned down U of Chicago for Barnard.. and I think this is the best decision I have ever made!</p>
<p>I think my D would have turned down Julliard for Rice. Turned out she blew her Julliard audition and didn't get in, so she didn't have to make the decision. However, I was "encouraging" her away from Julliard. I wanted her to have a better college experience, along with her top level music studies. She felt the same way, and has loved her two years at Rice.</p>
<p>explain deep springs</p>
<p>from their site</p>
<p>"The thing to remember about statistics is never to trust them. Deep Springs is a school of 26, which means 3.8% of our student body is sitting at the keyboard typing this. Not only do statistics grossly over-represent individual idiosyncrasies, they also change vastly from year to year: half of our student body is replaced each year, and admissions statistics can vary widely depending on the size of our applicant pool and the number of students admitted. It is entirely possible that an incoming class might contain as few as 11 or as many as 16 students and select from a pool of between 90 and 200--which means our selectivity, for instance, can vary between 18% and 6% year-to-year.</p>
<p>That being said, the student body voted this year not to release statistics irrelevant to the admissions process. What we can tell you is that Deep Springs will rarely accept more than 15% of applicants (12.5% in 2002), and that over 90% (94% in 2002) will generally accept the offer of admission. The combined SAT scores of students accepted tend to average between 1400 and 1500."</p>
<p>" Deep Springs offers only an Associate's Degree in the liberal arts. Deep Springers usually transfer after two years at the college to continue their education at a four-year institution. Over the long term, over two-thirds of our alumni have earned graduate degrees, with over half holding a doctorate (M.D., J.D., Ph.D., etc.) as their terminal degree.</p>
<p>Where exactly is the college?
Our postal address is just over the state line in Dyer, NV, but Deep Springs is on Highway 168 in Inyo County, California. Deep Springs sits in a mountain valley in the Inyo-Whites, just east of the Owens Valley and the Sierra Nevada. The nearest gas station is in Big Pine, CA, and the nearest town with a selection of services and stores is Bishop, CA, 40 miles and an hour's drive away. For more on the High Sierra region, check out 395.com."</p>
<p>"What's it cost to go to Deep Springs?
Every student accepted to Deep Springs receives a scholarship covering tuition, room, and board, and valued at over $50,000. Students need only pay for travel, books, and incidentals, which we estimate to be less than $2,800 per year."</p>
<p>it's a very, very competitive all-male school that has, like they said, about 26 people. and since most people leave after 2 years each year they'll take around 12 or 13. </p>
<p>the guys work together to keep the ranch together/maintained while doing some intensive learning.</p>
<p>one girl at my school almost rejected yale for umich b/c of money</p>
<p>listen ppl, u wanna know about prestige, i am workin w. small children over the summer, in fact they are small children from families of extreme wealth and priviledge. When they asked where I was going, of course, some had no clue about colleges in general. The others who actually knew something about colleges were like wow, you are going to cornell, thats reallly good. I mean, if a 8 year old knows of cornell, my future employer is bound to know about cornell. LOL :)</p>
<p>a friend of mine turned down brown for tcnj 7 year med program and full tuition.</p>
<p>hehe it's always (well, for like a year) been my dream to reject harvard for yale.</p>
<p>hahah that sounds soo cocky.</p>