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<p>Nice try, but you are still wrong. Please stop making up facts. There is nothing wrong with not being the first private research university (i.e., Stanford & Caltech).</p>
<p>^^USC IS California’s oldest private research university. ModernMan is correct
[University</a> of Southern California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California]University”>University of Southern California - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>This case study’s headline reads:</p>
<p>“The Oldest Private Research University in the West relies on Sonasoft as a One-Stop Shop for their Backup…”</p>
<p>It is a case study of USC. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.sonasoft.com/downloads/case-studies/Sonasoft-Case-Study-USC.pdf[/url]”>http://www.sonasoft.com/downloads/case-studies/Sonasoft-Case-Study-USC.pdf</a></p>
<p>How about let’s go to USC’s official website, which states:</p>
<p>“Los Angeles was little more than a frontier town in 1880 when USC first opened its doors to 53 students and 10 teachers. Today USC is a world-class research university, the oldest private research university in the West.”</p>
<p>[USC</a> at a Glance - USC Graduate Admission](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/graduate/learn/index.html]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/graduate/learn/index.html)</p>
<p>Now you tell me who is making things up.</p>
<p>USC established 1880
Stanford established 1891
Caltech established 1891</p>
<p>Saint Louis University is the oldest private university west of the Mississippi founded in 1818</p>
<p>Yes oldest private but it is not a research institution.</p>
<p>People, USC would not just make this up. If it is posted on their website then it is true. USC was the first private RESEARCH university. Other private institutions started out as a college, institute, vocational school or in St Louis University’s case an academy. </p>
<p>“Saint Louis University traces its origins to the Saint Louis Academy, founded on 16 November 1818”</p>
<p>If you use Wash U in St Louis,</p>
<p>Although chartered as a university, for many years Washington University functioned primarily as a night school located on 17th Street and Washington Avenue in the heart of downtown St. Louis.</p>
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<p>Don’t believe everything you read. It’s like the blind leading the blind.</p>
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<p>If you actually did your own research instead of believing everything you read, then you would know what USC says on its website is clearly false. </p>
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<p>You are full of yourself if you think Saint Louis University does not conduct research. </p>
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<p>Just because USC posted it on its website does not make it true. You should go look up the definition of the word academy before you disregard it. USC traces its roots to a Methodist church and we all know how much research the church conducts. </p>
<p>Do everyone a favor and stop perpetuating lies.</p>
<p>Why are you guys having a big debate on what the oldest west university is? 
I don’t even care which university is the oldest, I just hope I get in. 
I don’t even remember the topic of this thread anymore. lol :p</p>
<p>^ Agreed. IMHO, a weird thing to get so worked up about</p>
<p>Btw Trojans, the new student health center opened today. :)</p>
<p>It comes down the this. USC has determined that the accepted transfers are a higher caliber of student than the rejected high school seniors it would be forced to accept to maintain its numbers without them. There is little competition for top transfers, so they get the cream of the crop. I would venture to guess that their GPAs, graduate testing and admissions are comparable or USC wouldn’t be so eager to make this tradeoff.</p>
<p>I have no affiliation with USC and didn’t know about this transfer policy until now. It makes no difference in my opinion of the school’s reputation.</p>
<p>Actually LawMom the impression I get is that they are accepting transfers for two reasons</p>
<p>1) Transfers pay tuition
2) it reduces our freshman admission rates</p>
<p>AKA “gaming the system”</p>
<p>PS: I do not know how ranking works on the US News WR and other ranking sites. But I definitely didn’t do research into USC’s professors as compared to others when I applied. I just looked at the numerical rank. Moreover, most people pretty much believe that among top universities professors are all similar. Whether this is true or not, I don’t know, but among people I’ve conversed with, most people have doubts that professors at Harvard are significantly better than those at USC, whether it’s true or not. Moreover, people I’ve conversed with also agree that having more amazing professors would not help the reputation much. I didn’t do a real survey, this is just through small talk. But it’s the general trend. And I stand by my opinion that better applicants = better students = better school. So I’d say that trying to get star studded professors is probably a good goal, but not a huge priority.</p>
<p>I’d also say that Wash U St Louis does not have the location or reputation for amazing undergrad experience that USC does. I got into Wash U St Louis and opted not to go because USC is so much cooler. I think that’s holding Wash U SL down more than anything else… Do note that students, or at least I, hold other factors than just rank and quality of professors/program into account. So USC has that advantage!</p>
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It is frustrating that this piece of misinformation keeps getting posted. Though this thread is chock-full of unsupported misinformation, I feel this is one detail that needs to be clarified for our potential transfer applicants.</p>
<p>At USC, transfers receive financial aid at the same levels as students who entered as freshmen. The same. There is nothing to support the notion that transfers pay tuition at higher rates than students who enter as freshmen. Nothing.</p>
<p>[USC</a> Financial Aid - Applying & Receiving Financial Aid - Undergraduate - New Students](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/applying_receiving/undergraduates2/newstudents.html]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/applying_receiving/undergraduates2/newstudents.html)</p>
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<p>I will have to disagree with your statement that having amazing professors will not help a university’s reputation very much. Distinguished professors are arguably the most important asset of a university. Harvard professors are much superior to most other university. Harvard leads nearly university in citations per faculty.
[QS</a> World University Rankings - Topuniversities](<a href=“http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012/indicator-rankings/citations-per-faculty]QS”>http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012/indicator-rankings/citations-per-faculty)</p>
<p>For example, nearly every business schools uses Harvard’s cases. It’s publishing sales for 2010 was $135 million or 29% of the department’s revenue. [Supplemental</a> Information - Financials - Annual Report 2010 - Harvard Business School](<a href=“http://www.hbs.edu/about/annualreport/2010/financials/supplemental-information/]Supplemental”>http://www.hbs.edu/about/annualreport/2010/financials/supplemental-information/) </p>
<p>Amazing faculty draws researching funding/grants, attracts the best the brightest students, generates revenue for the school, and wins prestigious prizes. All of which helps to increase their university reputation.</p>
<p>sorry i only read the first 2 pages of this thread, because OP’s posts were just too ridiculous to keep reading… i can see 2 scenarios at this point:</p>
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<li><p>OP is trolling, and is having a damn good time…</p></li>
<li><p>op is literally an idiot, and quite frankly it is he who should not be at usc…</p></li>
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<p>ive met a bunch of CC transfer students at sc, and they were all pretty smart and quite frankly, got MUCH better grades than about 90% of my non transfer friends… a lot of my friends who entered right from highschool came from top highschools(several from the top 25 highschools in the country)…<br>
i can only hope that in the 5 pages between 2 and 7, you have at least provided some facts or proof of your arguments… although i doubt it considering what youre posting about…</p>
<p>Once again the problem is the endowment at USC. USC does not have enough money to offer enough financial aid to enough elite students to raise its fall enrollment from 3,000 to at least 4,000. USC currently has about 17,000 undergrads, if USC admitted 4,000 every year and about 1-2 thousands transfers it would be a lot better deal. </p>
<p>there are different ways to game the rankings, just do what Emory and George Washington did!</p>
<p>As a transfer student at USC, I had to come out of hibernation for this…</p>
<p>There is absolutely no way OP is being serious.</p>
<p>Please! I really want someone to help me improve my USC essay. I am looking for advice, comments, and concerns.
I’m undecided so it was really difficult for me to attack the prompt</p>
<p>Describe your academic interests and how you plan to pursue them at USC?</p>
<p>1000 characters</p>
<p>This essay is for the USC prompt and i want to enter undecided. it has to be a 1000 characters or less. please someone help me shorten it and strengthen it please. much appreciated</p>
<p>Describe your academic interests and how you plan to pursue them at USC?</p>
<p>1000 characters</p>
<p>Ever since I began high school, I was able to stretch my growing knowledge onto fields like foreign language, math, science, English, and history. However, for the past three and a half years, all Ive taken were courses in those fields. I have not been able to expand from that cubicle of subjects. At USC, I want to take a variety of courses such as sociology to understand relations in societies. I want to learn the theories of economics and finance to provide solutions to fix our countrys financial problems. Coming in as an undecided college student allows me to select from a wide range of classes and help develop an interest that can lead to my dream profession. At the University of Southern California, undecided students are promoted becomes many of the students at USC change their majors up to 5 times. USCs Learning Community Program is a program that was established to help undecided incoming freshman and other students into finding an academic field that will best suit their interest. With this program, I will be able to develop a strong interest in an academic field. Thus, providing comfort in taking a variety of classes and helping me select my dream profession.</p>