Not really ready for college?

Better or worse than prior generations? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4666794/Millennials-aren-t-ready-reality-life.html

My kids didn’t know much about rent and paying bills when they got to college either. Both learned mighty quick as soon as they moved off campus.

As with much in life, it’s not what you don’t know – it’s how quickly and well you can learn it.

More people than ever are going to (and going away to) college… including people who probably shouldn’t and didn’t in generations past.

Honestly, many of these could have applied to me as a first gen student but I had more or less been living on my own since I was 16. I was anxious about starting college. I had no idea how much time people spend in lecture.

And some of these just aren’t true for everyone. I spent more on groceries than I did on rent because I lived in a dirt cheap two room apartment with 3 other people.

I never told my university about my mental health problems. Never saw a need to especially since it had been more or less under control for a while.

Sensational title with a bunch of numbers that don’t really mean anything since there’s no other previous data (past generations) to compare it to.

Also, the side story: CASUAL SEX IS MAKING COLLEGE STUDENTS ANXIOUS is a COMPLETELY bunk title. The study found an association but certainly not a causal link.

I despise these types of articles. It’s probably why I don’t bother reading things like the Daily Mail in general :slight_smile:

@romanigypsyeyes

I was going to say the same exact thing about the Daily Mail :P.

Not so bunky. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/love-and-sex-in-the-digital-age/201506/what-are-the-psychological-effects-casual-sex

50% (approximately- i.e. the male population) of my HS class suffered anxiety at the prospect of going to Viet Nam. About half of them had terrible draft lottery numbers so their anxiety was quite well deserved. Some of them ended up in Canada, some ended up serving ( a few never to return, and our country has been slow to show their families any sort of gratitude for their sacrifice) and many more ended up in college studying ANYTHING which got them an educational deferment.

I’d say that the “trauma” of learning how to pay a bill or figure out how to write a check for your rent is somehow manageable in light of my generations trauma. Which pales when compared to my parents generation, where most able-bodied 18 year olds went off to serve in either Europe or Asia without any regard at all for college and their own education or individual happiness.

Somehow everyone muddles through. The older members of my family who served during WW2 in the Armed Services reported that NOBODY in their unit had ever made a meal, sewed on a button, done laundry. They had mothers and sisters for that.

Nonetheless, the allies won the war after our soldiers figured out how to get their rations out of the can and onto a bowl. This generation will no doubt figure it out as well.

Not worse than past generations. The difference seems to perhaps be more openness regarding talking about one’s anxieties. There will always be stress associated with transitions, that stress can be growth producing, or it can be impairing.

Junk article and British study. A friend’s son went off to Stanford close to twenty years ago by now and she reported how a dorm mate had to learn how to do laundry. The best students, who NEED to go to college, often haven’t bothered learning mundane things they don’t need to. My son learned stuff when he needed to, but certainly not any sooner. College helps maturity by stretching the young adult beyond their comfortable childhood existence.

I don’t know if it’s “not worse than past generations.” I think there might be more “labeling” of reasons why kids are in college who might not have been sent or have gone in previous generations and more desire on the part of parents and colleges/unis to support and educate those kids. It’s not necessary a bad thing, The only thing that would be a negative is that once the education piece is complete businesses have not adopted that “supportive” environment outside of the very narrow definitions of “disabilities” that are regulated in the workplace.

Or find it on the Internet, which is how young people do things.

I strongly suspect that there are people as old as their thirties who use postal mail so infrequently that on the rare occasions when they actually have to address an envelope, they use Google to find a picture of one so that they can be sure to put the return address and the stamp in the correct corners. But so what? It works, right?

@barrons - nope, still bunky. Nobody has ever been able to prove any causal relationship between casual sex and depression/mental health.

If you read that Psychology Today article, you’ll see that most results are 1) correlational and 2) mixed. Many researchers have found some kind of relationship between depression and casual sex, but many researchers have also found no association. And it’s very difficult to do causal inference without doing an experiment, which would be unethical (and impossible) in this case, so we don’t know what comes first or whether there are third variables. For all we know, depression could cause casual sex - young people who are depressed may seek out casual relationships as a way to self-medicate. People with poor mental health do all sorts of destructive things to try to feel better.

Interestingly, some of the more nuanced studies have found that it has lots to do with your outlook on sex, too - the article has more about that.