Notre Dame or Boston College?

<p>ND and Holy Cross both have alumni giving rates above 50% which says a great deal about alumni satisfaction, success, and strength of alumni networks. Holy Cross at 56% is among the best in the country with Williams, Amherst, and Bowdoin. For job placement, ND and Holy Cross are tops.</p>

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<p>I believe you, but could you point me to the outcomes data, please? </p>

<p>I’m just wondering if ND graduates stay in the Midwest.</p>

<p>LOL. Par72 works for Holy Cross.</p>

<p>So he should have some accurate data! :)</p>

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<p>Here’s a map showing the locations of ND Alumni Clubs. This only includes clubs that have a social media presence, so it’s not a complete list:
<a href=“https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103587742497732736752.00046799f4dd433bcc45e[/url]”>Notre Dame Alumni Clubs - Google My Maps;

<p>This shows the number of ND Law School graduates in each state. Click on the red dots to get the number:
<a href=“https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?q=select+col0+from+1_cH45BrodCKaJjklPyCiOKujMjLaG_-0_cOnjGA&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=37.89718008096318&lng=-95.51862175625001&t=1&z=3&l=col0&y=2&tmplt=2[/url]”>https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?q=select+col0+from+1_cH45BrodCKaJjklPyCiOKujMjLaG_-0_cOnjGA&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=37.89718008096318&lng=-95.51862175625001&t=1&z=3&l=col0&y=2&tmplt=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Countries with ND Alumni Clubs:
<a href=“https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?q=select+col0+from+1wmyByBSWrYomadbNNnk-tlheglkyUxcr9d7cwkg&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=8.418482808901986&lng=21.050456725000004&t=1&z=2&l=col0&y=2&tmplt=2[/url]”>https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?q=select+col0+from+1wmyByBSWrYomadbNNnk-tlheglkyUxcr9d7cwkg&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=8.418482808901986&lng=21.050456725000004&t=1&z=2&l=col0&y=2&tmplt=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thank you for the information, Jea. :)</p>

<p>It appears Notre Dame has quite the national spread. </p>

<p>Or is this typical of schools with a strong alumni network?</p>

<p>IMO this is a question only you can/should answer. They are both fine schools so you can’t make a bad choice. </p>

<p>My husband and son went to ND so I would lean that way for sure. It is a unique and beautiful institution with amazing students and professors, tremendous school spirit and a national reputation and alumni base. But if you prefer the location of BC in the suburbs of Boston, then that is a consideration particularly if you are from the east coast and want to attend college closer to home. Only you can weigh the different factors and make the choice that works best for you.</p>

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<p>They go to Holy Cross. They are extremely insignificant people. It’s a fact.</p>

<p>cheetah your comments are gratuitously incendiary and provocative. Holy Cross students and alumni are not insignificant, they are human beings. In fact they are extremely smart and the only reason I would not compare Holy Cross to the aforementioned Big Three Catholic Schools is that Holy Cross is not a national research university. Holy Cross is very comparable to Boston College in terms of difficulty of admission, but probably not to Georgetown and Notre Dame. Some students even choose Holy Cross over Boston College because Holy Cross is just as strong academically (if not more) in the liberal arts. I would choose BC though if you want business specialization. Holy Cross students from what I’ve seen are far from superficial; they are nice and bright people.<br>
ND students work in Chicago, NY, LA, etc, etc, etc, everywhere. Where you go is up to you. I don’t feel that being in the suburb of Newton is enough of a factor to choose one university over another. People do go off-campus in South Bend, there are bars in both South Bend and Boston that students frequent. There is not a theatre district nor pro sports in South Bend, but the games at ND make up for most of it. Location should not be that big of a factor when it comes down to whether you are the right fit for the university itself, especially since out of ND you will get a job anywhere. BC is usually seen as a backup for ND in students’ minds. ND is more well-known. Gtown is great for business and Gtown and BC are comparable in terms of preppiness and a misplaced sense of insolent superiority that permeates their campuses.</p>

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<p>Hmm, how is that any less incendiary…? </p>

<p>I doubt we can quantify insolence, so if that is your impression of the student vibe, I suppose it is valid. However, we can measure preppiness.</p>

<p>Here is a measure of [economic</a> diversity](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/economic-diversity/spp%2B50/page+5]economic”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/economic-diversity/spp%2B50/page+5) at the schools in question: </p>

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<p>And here is an analysis done by a credible CC poster in this thread: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/11033-rich-kid-schools-4.html#post164962[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/11033-rich-kid-schools-4.html#post164962&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>So Georgetown may well be the preppiest school around, but Notre Dame isn’t far off in terms of absolute numbers. </p>

<p>I suspect you mean to say that the spirit and campus culture of Notre Dame is more laid-back, whereas in Gtown there is the sophisticated city-dweller feel. </p>

<p>Just keep in mind that in South Bend there aren’t nearly as many opportunities to display one’s wealth.</p>

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<p>I think it’s just as easy to wear expensive clothes, drive fancy cars, take 5-star vacations and throw your money around in South Bend as it is in Boston or anyplace else. However, the Midwest in general tends to be less pretentious than some other parts of the country. The money might be there, but perhaps not as overtly displayed… not for lack of opportunity, but from the culture in general.</p>