@Zinhead I know but good luck finding that. I don’t think many schools would give out that information. Even if they did, they would exclude the number of students who started as premed but did not follow through with applying to medical school. All of the stats about % of applicants accepted from a single school I take with a grain of salt. From the numbers on those charts, I would work on getting a 3.80+ GPA and a 30+ MCAT score if I were a white male.
S was also choosing between Yale and ND. We had the same experience with Yale’s financial aid office. They definitely did not give off the “friendly, we want to work with you” vibe. He did attend Bulldog Days, and had also visited ND several times and done an overnight. The community and family at ND are a very real thing. As noted, ND does have a high med school acceptance rate and Mendoza Business has been rated tops in the country the last several years. He chose ND and has never regretted that decision.
I commend you for considering the impact on the family finances. It’s a nice feeling to know you won’t have to haggle and worry each year about f/a.
I second the decision to visit Yale. The schools have very different vibes, especially if you are interested in the sports and/or Catholic identity aspects. Come back to the thread and let us know your decision!
Congratulations on earning such good options. I would visit Yale so you can make a decision without regrets.
I will tell you that our daughter has found ND to be her dream school, for all the reasons you stated and more. It has exceeded every high expectation we had. If you do decide to go to ND you will never regret it.
Wish you the best in your decision and good luck next year!
@WISdad23 - You are correct, but sometimes you can make inferences about the school. For instance, UChicago claims that 150 of incoming students year year declare as pre-meds, and they end up supporting between 100 to 125 with a 80 to 90 acceptance rate for supported students. According to the AAMC figures, UChicago had 158 med school applicants, which is significantly more than UChicago claims they support.
ND is more opaque, but you can find some data out there for Yale.
@Zinhead Sometimes institutions defined “acceptance rate” in a way that increases the %. One way would be to limit the number of students that are “supported” (the denominator) to those students most likely to be accepted. It’s one reason you really can’t compare acceptance rates between colleges…or if you do, just realize they may be using different methodologies.
@Zinhead true, but I think a number would-be incoming premed students start as science majors without officially designating themselves as premed at time of acceptance. The point is that whatever the school’s stated success rate with med school admissions, the number is likely overstated. Also, some colleges, like University of Chicago and Yale, operate their own medical schools. I think that would be an advantage of premed at Yale vs ND.
@dowski Curious - what did you decide? My son’s headed to ND in August for physics.