NRC Top10 Berkeley>Harvard Top 5 Harvard>Berkeley

<p>Excerpt: NRC Report</p>

<p>The National Research Council ranked 48 UC Berkeley doctoral programs within the top 10 nationally. Based on the NRC's statistical analysis, 48 of UC Berkeley's 52 ranked Ph.D. programs placed within a range that included the top 10, compared to 46 of 52 programs for Harvard University, which came in second, and 40 of 59 programs for UCLA, in third place. Equally impressive was UC Berkeley's standing among the nation's very best graduate programs. UC Berkeley had 40 programs ranked within a range that extends into the top 5, compared to 41 at Harvard and 30 at Stanford University. Fourteen UC Berkeley programs were assigned an upper range of first place, compared with 20 at Harvard, 11 at Stanford, and 10 each at Princeton University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).
09.28.2010</a> - National Research Council ranks UC Berkeley's Ph.D. programs among nation's best</p>

<p>This is old news… and none of it is surprising to say the least. -.-</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Thanks, I needed some therapy after going to last Saturday’s game.</p>

<p>As a foreign Student, I went to Stanford from1977~1981,
I think Berkeley was ranked No.1 at that time. My Wife and I are both Stanford Grads. </p>

<p>Since my D is in Berkeley, it is good to know that Berkeley is still on top. </p>

<p>Quote from Parent Thread:
I have university assessment from 1925-1982, The columns are for the rankings in order from 1925(Hughes), 1934(Hughes), 1959(Keniston), 1965(Cartter) ,1970(Roose), 1979(Ladd/Lipset) and the 1982 assessment, 1993 and 2010. I thought that it would be interesting to average out those years. I was surprised to see Michigan, Wisconsin, Harvard, Berkeley, and Yale as the only schools to stay in the top 10 during that period. I used the summary from this blog as the top 10 although I realize that it is by no means the final rankings, but it is probably very close. the last column is the average rank, sorry I wasn’t able to make the grid fit on this page.</p>

<p>Average rank</p>

<p>Harvard…2 1 1 2 2 1 3 3 2
Berkeley… 9 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1
Yale… 4 7 4 6 5 4 3 6 6
Wisconsin… 5 4 8 3 6 7 8 10 6
Stanford …14 13 13 5 3 3 2 2 2
Michigan… 8 8 5 4 4 5 8 10 7
Chicago… 1 5 6 9 7 6 7 8 11
Princeton… 6 11 7 10 8 8 6 4 4
Columbia… 3 3 3 7 12 11 11 10 12
Cornell… 10 6 9 11 11 12 11 6 9</p>

<p>Why is there the need to be so obsessive with Berkeley’s rank? I don’t get it…if it really is a top university then why the need to compare it with other universities?</p>

<p>'cause Berkeley is underrated by USNEWS (Alumni Giving, Retention, f-S Ratio etc)</p>

<p>If Harvard and Yale are ranked 23rd and 24th by USNEWS, they will get obsessed
with their rankings.</p>

<p>^Is Berkeley really underrated? My counselors say…its pretty much where it’s supposed to be…</p>

<p>I mean I don’t know what you guys think, but Berkeley doesn’t exactly have such a great rep in California…Not nearly as great as Stanford. Berkeley is just a “hippy” school. All you need is good grades and an SAT score above a 2000. People think of drugs and protest when you mention UC Berkeley.
In fact UCLA is equally if not more desirable. I’m not sure how Berkeley can even come close to the Ivy League in undergrad quality.
Sorry, but I hear their graduate schools are very top notch! So I do believe Berkeley is probably top 5 in Graduate/PhD programs. Good for Cal.</p>

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<p>As I said my wife and I are from Stanford. </p>

<p>Check “Grade inflation” about Harvard and/or Stanford.</p>

<p>My D didn’t apply for Stanford. She chose Berkeley over Pomona.</p>

<p>excerpt from Stanford Daily</p>

<p>“Your grades will be ‘adjusted’ to Stanford standards at the end of the course.” </p>

<p><a href=“http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page...y=0001_article[/url]”>http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page...y=0001_article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You got Stanford kids comin’ to your program? Man, good luck with them — I heard they’re a bunch of whiners and moaners.”
Yes, my friends, such were the words spoken by some Harvard </p>

<p>professor to one of our charismatic Australian professors a few weeks before we flew into Australia.</p>

<p>Apparently in Australia, they don’t believe in the wonderful, cushy system we have come to love at Stanford called grade inflation.</p>

<p>No, our professor told us, not everyone can get an “A.” In fact, if you complete an adequate job, you can hopefully get a “C,” and if you manage to get above average, you can cheerfully accept a “B.”</p>

<p>All hell broke loose. “What about my precious med school applications?” some of us screamed. “How am I going to get into law school with a bunch of ‘C’s on my transcript?” others cried out.</p>

<p>That night, the phone lines were busy as our perplexed Australian professors spoke to the folks back at Stanford. “Don’t worry,” they told us in the morning. “Your grades will be ‘adjusted’ to Stanford standards at the end of the course.”</p>

<p>^I highly doubt you’re from Stanford. You claim to be alumni and your wife as well. But you put Berkeley at a higher pedestal? Even when you’ve never physically attended Berkeley? So you don’t like Stanford because of its grade inflation…And for some reason you’re now advocating Berkeley??
And your daughter didn’t apply to Stanford even with a double alumni status? </p>

<p>Give me one reason why I shouldn’t believe you’re just another Berkeley alum trying to ■■■■■ for your alma mater.</p>

<p>Log in Stanford ALumni online.(if you have a friend or know somebody from Stanford)
<a href=“System Message”>System Message;

<p>go to find a alum
Alumni Directory Search
put A and 500 comes out</p>

<p>This is an order I will omit last name for Privacy. </p>

<p>Mr. Alden 1907 History </p>

<p>Mr. Arthur AB Geology </p>

<p>Mr. Alfred </p>

<p>Miss Anne 1909 AB Latin </p>

<p>Mrs. Allan (formerly Ms. Patricia )1948 AB Psychology </p>

<p>Mr. Andrew 1896 Undergraduate Law </p>

<p>Mr. Arthur 1931 AB Economics </p>

<p>Major Arnold 1937 AB Pre-clin Medical Sci</p>

<p>“Why is there the need to be so obsessive with Berkeley’s rank?”</p>

<p>Compensating for their god-awful, embarrassing undergraduate colleges.</p>

<p>And what exactly is the difference? Do they have access to different faculty and conduct classes in different buildings? You have no basis for that statement. Dumbest thing I have read here in months.</p>

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It’s “god-awful” for those clowns that were spoon-fed their whole life. The ones that were groomed for an elite college from a young age and made to think they’re a special little angel. For those that actually manage to grow up by age 18, Berkeley will serve as well as any other school. Get over it.</p>

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You are awesome.</p>