<p>Does anybody know how many people applied ED. Has the number come out yet?</p>
<p>It hasn’t. And according to an article in today’s issue of “The Dartmouth,” it will come out early next week:</p>
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<p>[TheDartmouth.com:</a> Early decision pool rises to 1,800](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2011/11/10/news/decisions]TheDartmouth.com:”>http://thedartmouth.com/2011/11/10/news/decisions)</p>
<p>Keep an eye on “The Daily Pennsylvanian” site for an article:</p>
<p>[The</a> Daily Pennsylvanian](<a href=“http://thedp.com/]The”>http://thedp.com/)</p>
<p>1.3% decline in ED apps at penn this year</p>
<p>That’s only a decrease of 61 students (4,571 to 4,510), so I doubt the numbers will significantly affect anything.</p>
<p>better than the 17% increase in the past 2 years lol</p>
<p>where did you get this information from?. I thought the numbers will be out early next week.</p>
<p>^ prayer525, see this thread:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/1240382-slight-decrease-number-ed-applications-penn-class-2016-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/1240382-slight-decrease-number-ed-applications-penn-class-2016-a.html</a></p>
<p>The number was released late last night (maybe the Penn Admissions Office was just messin’ with “The Dartmouth” when it said “early next week” 
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<p>Seems like good news for all those who applied ED, including my daughter.</p>
<p>this just made my day.</p>
<p>I believe this is a good piece of information we have! Eric Furda puts much emphasis on ED of UPenn, and if, statistically speaking, has been a decrease of applicants however small, it may symbolically represent a concern in future yield rates, etc. I can extrapolate that maybe UPenn ED will be drawing more students from ED than last year, when there wasn’t any competition from Harvard and Princeton.</p>
<p>However, these are only guesses, but I hope that this decrease in applicants will play a positive effect on all of us EDers! :)</p>
<p>I applied to UPenn on Nov. 3rd, and this is really cool!</p>
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Not to be TOO much of a buzzkill 
, but as the chart accompanying the DP article makes apparent, the number of ED applicants has risen and fallen quite a bit over the past several years. Yet through all of the rises and falls, Penn consistently has accepted in the fairly tight range of about 1100-1200 ED applicants (or just under 50% of the target class size).</p>
<p>Furthermore, from the Admissions Office’s perspective, this year’s number of ED applicants probably doesn’t even register as a decrease from last year’s number, as the two are so close statistically (not to mention that this year’s number probably will go up a bit after a few more international, etc. ED applications come in through the mail, etc.). In other words, I’d be quite surprised if the ED acceptance rate this year didn’t end up being close to the 26.1% it was last year.</p>
<p>The good news from an applicant’s perspective, however, is that the number of ED applications didn’t go UP this year (as it did at several of Penn’s peers)! :)</p>
<p>I think Penn has finally maxed out. Other schools, it seems (Duke +23%, what’s with that!!!) are still on the upswing. Penn was always a poor stepsister to HYP, but attracted Penn-is-my-Ivy-ED-safety crowd who couldn’t get any boost from HYP. Now that HYP has SCEA, and applicants feel they can get a boost there, they are using it and dissing Penn. I would bet that the quality of the Penn ED pool has decreased overall (in the absence of the panicky HYP candidates who had to have an Ivy and for whom Penn was their have-to-have-an-Ivy best shot – those candidates have now migrated to the ED they really wanted, HYP). It was fun while it lasted for you, Eric, wasn’t it? Now back to regularly scheduled also-ran status.</p>
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<p>I’ll take that bet:</p>
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<p>[The</a> Daily Pennsylvanian :: Penn sees slight drop in early decision applications](<a href=“Penn sees slight drop in early decision applications | The Daily Pennsylvanian”>Penn sees slight drop in early decision applications | The Daily Pennsylvanian)</p>
<p>So far, your speculation is not supported by the statistics (including the total number of ED applications itself, which is basically the same as it was last year from a statistical signficance perspective, similar to most of Penn’s peers except outlier Duke). Not to mention that it’s completely illogical to think that an applicant looking for his/her “best shot” at an Ivy would switch from Penn ED to HYP SCEA, which would hardly give him/her a “better shot.”</p>
<p>Nice try, though. :rolleyes:</p>
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- What would you expect Furda to say, that quality declined? Who’s to say what “quality” means, anyway. We both (Furda and I) get a free pass on our opinions.</p>
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<li> RE: “best shot.” Last year, kids who wanted Harvard over Penn got no boost, so they sucked it up and applied ED just to get in somewhere Ivy. Now, they DO get a boost when they apply, so don’t need the trade-off to downsize to Penn. I am so glad that Penn finally got rid of Paterno!</li>
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No. Furda has access to data and statistics to which you don’t, and also has a job and professional reputation on the line if he makes public statements that aren’t ultimately supported by the publicly released and internal (vis-a-vis his job) data. You, on the other hand, have nothing on the line except your status as an obvious ■■■■■.</p>
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Guess what–they don’t get much of a boost this year, either. Anyone who knows anything about Ivy admissions knows that when Harvard had SCEA before, there was little–if any–difference in acceptance rates between SCEA and RD. With a RD yield in the range of 78%, I doubt that will change with Harvard’s current SCEA.</p>
<p>Maybe you should take your trollery–and stale Penn/Penn State jokes–somewhere else. :rolleyes:</p>