<p>Does anyone know how many freshmen are accepted into Tisch’s acting programs (and I include CAP21 and all the other studios in this) each year? </p>
<p>A student that I know who recently auditioned said that she was told that Tisch will accept 400 students across all the studios. That seems high to me. </p>
<p>Susan? Anyone? I would be interested to know how many they accept and how many enroll.</p>
<p>NMR....I don't have the definitive answer for you but will share what information I do know. Also, the numbers change year to year.....yields can fluctuate and then colleges readjust the next year, etc. </p>
<p>First, when we went to an information session in 2004 (so FOUR years ago), my D jotted down the following (I still have the folder!): 2500 audition to all studios for Tisch Drama (this includes CAP) and 250 accepted. However, I am now thinking that maybe 250 were the slots available, rather than the number accepted.</p>
<p>However, Arthur Bartow, Artistic Director at Tisch, posted here on CC on 11/4/05 the following:</p>
<p>2500-3000 audition for all of Tisch Drama (ALL studios) and that they accept 15-17%.
CAP21 is the first choice of 1000 who audition and they accept 75 to yield 64. </p>
<p>I am not positive how many students are in Tisch Drama but I have this feeling that it could be 250-300...perhaps more like 300. Therefore, it is not far fetched the information you heard that Tisch accepts 400. If there are 300 slots, that is a 75% yield rate for enrollment. And if 2500 audition, and Mr. Bartow said they accept 15-17% overall to all studios, that 400 number of acceptances sounds in the ballpark to me. I also just have this recollection of 300 Tisch Drama freshmen, but can't say with 100% certainty on that.</p>
<p>Addendum to the above...
In an article written this past October about Elizabeth Bradley taking over as the Chair of Tisch Drama (from CMU), it says that there are 1,435 matriculated students in Tisch Drama. Therefore, roughly 358 students are in each year's Drama class. This correlates roughly to what I wrote above as well as with some information you had heard.</p>
<p>D wrote down at the info session we attended this fall that this year they were expecting to see 3000 auditioners for Tisch as a whole, and about 1300 who specify musical theatre as their first choice. </p>
<p>They also said that they ultimately will offer acceptance to 1 out of every 3 applicants NYU considers to qualify both academically and artistically, which sounds good initially, but when you think about it some more, it does not really tell you much as you don't know how many out of those 3000 actually "pass" NYU's academic and artistic criteria.</p>
<p>^^^ I do not understand the "will offer acceptance to 1 out of 3 who qualify". The acceptance rate for Tisch Drama (all studios) is about 15-17%. The acceptance rate for CAP is about 6% roughly. The acceptance rate for the entire university is about 28%. I haven't heard of colleges mentioning accepting a certain amount out of those "who qualify". I've only heard of acceptances mentioned out of all those who apply.</p>
<p>We also attended a Tisch Drama info session recently. </p>
<p>We were told that each studio takes 15-20 or so freshman. With 6 acting studios and a tech track (also with 15 students), plus Cap 21's 65 students, this is equals over 200 students in all the freshman drama classes.</p>
<p>Hope my math is correct.</p>
<p>mamalu, that is not entirely correct because each studio's size differs and they take a different amount. For instance, Meisner is a smaller studio. Another example is that in April 2006, Arthur Bartow, Artistic Director at Tisch, posted here on CC that they sent out 100 invitations for Stella Adler Studio, hoping to enroll 70 freshmen in that studio. So, it is incorrect that EACH studio has 15-20 freshmen. Some small studios might but many studios have more. There are 8 studios. There are likely about 300 some odd Drama freshmen. You can't divide by 8 because some studios are bigger and some are smaller.</p>
<p>PS...in April 2006, a current ETW freshman posted that there were 34 freshmen in his studio.</p>
<p>I am aware that this was a "different kind of" comment, because it did not refer to the percentages and numbers that we are used to hearing at these info sessions, but that is exactly why I posted it.</p>
<p>Kevin Kuhlke (Chair of the Drama Dept) indicated that 'to put things in perspective' they would wind up offering acceptance to 1 out of 3 applicants who qualify, more specifically, that aside from every 1 person they offer admission to, they also have to turn another 2 down (who may be just as talented & academically desirable). </p>
<p>This may lead one to incorrectly think that Tisch's overall acceptance rate would be something like 33.3%. However, remember that not all 3000 of the 3000 applicants will wind up considered "qualified" after auditioning or academic review. </p>
<p>Since D participated in the morning audition, and I had passed on my coffee in favor of her getting there on time :) it took a while for me to actually understand Kuhlke's comment. I most definitely had a "say what?" moment :).</p>
<p>Perhaps what Kevin (who is great) was trying to express is that like any very competitive college or program, there are many more who qualify and have what it takes to get in than they can accept and so that they are still turning away many who qualify. This is true in other realms such as low admit rate schools like the Ivy League, etc. You can be entirely qualified and still be turned away. I just have not ever heard anyone mention some sort of "rate" in those terms.</p>
<p>By the way, for any college (or any BFA program) that has a very low admit rate, I consider these schools to be "reaches" for ANYONE by virtue of their low acceptance rates and not because their qualifications put the school into a reach category. For instance, at an Ivy school, you can be valedictorian, have a 4.0 and an SAT (CR/M) of 1500 and still not get in, but it won't be due to not being qualified but simply the low odds, therefore making it a "reach". Likewise, you can be a top student academically and one of the top MT talents out there and still be denied at some BFA programs. The odds just make it so. So, if someone is VERY talented and a VERY good student is told, "you can't count on NYU/Tisch/CAP21," it is not because their talent is in doubt, but simply that the odds make it so, even for the most qualified kids out there.</p>
<p>Well, I gotta admit, all the percentages I have heard about at the different info sessions have turned into a big blur, but Kuhlke's comment stood out :D.</p>
<p>Mtgrlsmom..... this is true that all the info sessions seem to blur after awhile, but for a few salient notes taken and my d's "feeling" that the school is a fit for her or not.<br>
Our Tisch info session was with an info session manager, and didn't have answers to all that attendees asked that day. He was very eager to help but admitted to not having been in his position for very long.</p>
<p>MT, the comment makes sense to me. It appears, then, that less than half of the kids who apply are qualified in terms of both academics & talent. If 45% pass both academic & talent standards, only 1/3 of them are given an offer. That would be an overall acceptance rate of 15%.</p>
<p>mamalu - that same info session manager was there during our session too :), a very nice young man indeed, and eager to please! </p>
<p>Stickershock - glad it made sense to you too! We came away from the NYU audition with the "don't feel too bad, if you don't get in, because you will be in the same boat with many others" message. Somehow it did not feel negative at all, and just honest about the odds, without the "bragging kind of undertone" you hear at some auditions ("we get xyz amount of applications, because we are 'such & such' and therefore can cherry-pick") :D.</p>
<p>They said around 350-400 at my audition. About 60 for CAP 21?</p>
<p>There were approx. 350 drama students when I arrived in Fall 2006 (that was the number they told us in our first big meeting), and 65 in my year at CAP. </p>
<p>There. A statistic. :)</p>
<p>Chris, who hasn't been here in a very very long time.</p>
<p>Chris! Hey there! It's great to "hear" from you. Update us as to how you are doing one of these days.</p>
our son was just accepted into tisch drama but hasn’t received his studio assignment yet. can someone comment on the approximate number of freshmen accepted? any comment on the talent level at this school? how many apply? are people liking it? my son seems to know a few from his high school who feel like it’s a bit of a mill, with little personal attention or outstanding training.
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