<p>So I've been reading a lot of these threads lately because I'm on the waitlist at Villanova for the Nursing School, but after reading so many of these I haven't heard of anyone who is going to Villanova for Nursing. I know its the smallest school and most competitive at Villanova but I'm just curious who got accepted to the nursing school, or who is on the waitlist for the nursing school...or just anything about nursing in general</p>
<p>Just curious</p>
<p>LOL, “most competative!” Hardly. It is the least competative at nova as well as most other major colleges. Good luck but let’s be real.</p>
<p>If you are interested in nursing, save the money and go to a state school. You will do just as well and not have the debt.</p>
<p>Business is the most competitive school at Villanova, not nursing. I’m in Arts and Sciences, so I don’t know too much about it other than that.</p>
<p>The only reason I say most competitive is because they only take 90 students and this year they had 700+ applicants…which seems pretty competitive if you ask me. The percentage taken in the other schools is much higher.</p>
<p>Harry Balzak, do you know anything about nursing? It is very competitive and you are wrong about saving money for community college, which is actually even harder to get into. Please do not attack a profession if you do not know anything about the structure and process today.</p>
<p>Where’d you find the acceptance rates for the individual schools? I was at Villanova not too long ago and was told at the information session that business is the most competitive, so that’s what I was going on when I posted earlier. I suppose that information could have been inaccurate.</p>
<p>That’s just what I was told when I went to one of the Nursing Open Houses they had. I feel like a lot of people sort of forget about the Nursing School since the Business School is so well known and compared to the Nursing School has a lot more students. The Nursing School at Villanova is amazing, if any of you have a chance you should do a little research haha.</p>
<p>Well, the student I had at my information session was a business student, so I guess that explains his bias. All the schools at Villanova are great, though, so good luck with your application!</p>
<p>lets be real, business is most competitive, let me know when nursing is ranked #11 in the country and has an average SAT score of like 1400. i agree with ballzak (nice name), i dont think he meant community college, i think he meant a state school to save money that youll need for grad school; which is more important</p>
<p>I did mean a state school not a community college, although some of them have decent nursing programs. I am always surprised by how delusional nurses are. Check the admissions information on nursing majors (SAT, etc.) and then tell me it is the most selective program.</p>
<p>Nursing is a good field but it is the closest a college gets to career training (think television repair man) as opposed to general, well rounded education. My mother is a nurse and so is my sister so I am not against nursing at all but the way nurses talk you would think they were performing the surgery! Nursing majors also take watered down sciences - not the sciences that science majors take. If you have the grades/intellect why not major in a hard science and become a doctor. Since nursing is so difficult, maybe you should take the “easy” route and study bio at nova and go become a doctor. Seriously, nurses, valuable as they are, are the most delusional people on earth.</p>
<p>The reason I said to save your money and go to a state school is because nurses are usually paid on a pay scale based on years of experience rather than straight merit. Most registered nurses with similar experience, in the same region, make a similar amount of money. You’d be better off saving your money since you will make the same money as a state school grad when you are done. There really is no pay off. A private education is a good thing to have when you are looking to apply to law or medical school, a PhD. program or are looking for a job in the business world. To become a teacher or nurse, it is a waste of money in my opinion.</p>
<p>Geez–give jmk0391 a break. I don’t think she meant nursing is the hardest major at Villanova or the highest ranked program compared to other universities, or that nursing is the hardest profession out there. I think she meant competitive by there being only 90 slots for about 700 applicants, which would be a very low ratio (her statistics, not mine). I don’t know the comparative ratio for the other majors/disciplines, or how many they actually ACCEPT to yield 90 freshman nursing majors.</p>
<p>And generally, it should have easier for EVERYONE to get into Villanova this year because as reported in the Philadelphia Inquirer, Villanova had the largest decrease in applications in 35 schools surveyed in Pennsylvania and NJ -a 13% decrease. If 15,102 applied last year, that means that there were about 2000 less applications for the same amount of open slots.</p>
<p>Harry, I’m considering becoming a teacher and I find your comments disrespectful. You seem to have a high opinion of a “well-rounded” education – who do you think provides that education but teachers? Out of all professions, those in the field of teaching arguably have the most reason to get a really good liberal arts education because they’re the ones who are going to be passing that knowledge down to future students. Your suggestion that nursing and teaching are something akin to television repair shows that you have little knowledge of the professions you’re discussing and little respect for them. Might I ask where you’re going to school and what you’re studying? I’m sure that all of us on this board could find plenty of reasons why you shouldn’t “waste your money.”</p>
<p>cbd – not easier, 2009 class was most competitive in school history, so kinda balances i guess</p>
<p>Amelia, I didn’t compare teaching to tv repair. Re-read my post. I compared it to nursing only to illustrate the job training versus education distinction. I don’t equate nursing and tv repair either, really. Just illustrating the difference. </p>
<p>As far as saying it is a waste of money for teachers, that’s because teachers are normally paid on a scale based on years of experience. It is not a profession where your boss decides, “you know what, Amelia has been doing a really good job, I’m going to give her a $20,000 bonus this year.” Payment is often based on collective-bargaining agreements and government funding available. As a result, there aren’t the same subjective or merit-based salary decisions. You are paid based on what the scale says.</p>
<p>Money isn’t how I base my educational decisions, Harry. Teachers need to be well-educated because they are providing an important service. I realize that a Villanova grad might come out with more debt than a state school grad (although with my scholarship and financial aid package this scenario isn’t particularly relevant to me), but I would never counsel someone to attend a school they personally believe is not providing as good an education because it’s cheaper and the financial pay-off will be the same for their profession.</p>
<p>If you didn’t have a scholarship and financial aid you might feel differently. Truthfully, depending on what grade you are teaching it you may not need a good education. Face it, most kids are stupid. You don’t need a degree from MIT to teach fractions to a bunch of 4th graders. </p>
<p>Given your scholarship I would say nova is probably a good choice. I wouldn’t recommend it to a future teacher that was paying full price and going to graduate with $200,000 in debt. With a $35,000 / year salary it would take a long time to pay off.</p>
<p>Actually, the less intelligent the students are, the more reason you need to be well-trained as a teacher. No, it doesn’t take an MIT degree to teach fourth-graders, but anyone in the teaching profession can tell you that it’s far easier to teach intelligent students than those who are struggling. Bottom line, I still say that better schools produce better teachers, and better teachers are exactly what these “stupid” kids need.</p>
<p>Harry Balzak : You are missing the point of education.While you think a teacher may not need an “great education” to teach 4th grade , that person can always benefit personally and professionally from being well educated.The elementary teacher can inspire your future child to do great things in life or that elementary teacher may choose to do other things in his/her life after teaching.Either way , how can being well educated not be a priority?
Also,someone who enters college with teaching or nursing aspirations could change majors and career plans.I always laugh when posters think they know how best to effectively spend others education funds!
I also disagree with your opinion that “most kids are stupid” , but in this case you are being stupid.If you continue to think this way in life , you will run into a lot of brick walls.</p>
<p>Amelia, that is a legitimate point that kids that have more difficulty learning probably benefit more from better teachers. I think what makes the best teachers has more to do with personality though. Patience, communication skills, concern for the brats’ best interest, etc. are not necessarily learned in college. </p>
<p>Going back to my main point, financial factors sometimes make state schools better (financial) options for future nurses and teachers. You don’t get rich doing either so it makes sense to save money if you don’t get a scholarship since you will ultimately make the same salary regardless of your college choice.</p>
<p>BTW, Ulysses, some state schools do provide a good education.</p>
<p>Just fyi, i got off the waitlist today for the villanova school of nursing. i will be attending, not going to a state school, sorry Harry. SO EXCITED</p>